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<blockquote data-quote="TheOneGargoyle" data-source="post: 8489003" data-attributes="member: 6924207">Does he? This reminds me of the exchange in one of the marvel movies. Thor says to Iron Man, &quot;Take away your suit and what are you?&quot;, and Stark says &quot;Genius. Billionaire. Philanthropist. Playboy&quot;. It's the perfect response. Why? Because the story of iron Man is so much more than his magic item. So, the question is, again, what's the character concept and what's the story the player wants to tell? If the character concept is Legendary King of England, then there are plenty of things that make that character special. Visionary. Amazing Leader. Greatest Diplomat. Warrior King. If he hadn't drawn the sword from the stone, he could've become king in other ways. Why? Because just like Iron Man there's so much more to the story of Arthur than his magic item. Again. What's the character concept and what story do they want to tell? If the idea is 2 identical twins sorceresses who are the same in every way except one really important one - what's the problem? If the story they're going for is, we BOTH want to be King of England and we're going to fight for it, and only one of us can end up with Excalibur.... Then the problem again is? These sound like awesome stories. If I were DM-ing for these players I would be 100% on board! There are also new feats, new character class options, new subclasses, new settings &amp; new world options. Spells and magic items are one way to get character options but they're far from the only way. And for characters who want to tell different (ie non magic) stories, there's plenty of other options.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheOneGargoyle, post: 8489003, member: 6924207"] Does he? This reminds me of the exchange in one of the marvel movies. Thor says to Iron Man, "Take away your suit and what are you?", and Stark says "Genius. Billionaire. Philanthropist. Playboy". It's the perfect response. Why? Because the story of iron Man is so much more than his magic item. So, the question is, again, what's the character concept and what's the story the player wants to tell? If the character concept is Legendary King of England, then there are plenty of things that make that character special. Visionary. Amazing Leader. Greatest Diplomat. Warrior King. If he hadn't drawn the sword from the stone, he could've become king in other ways. Why? Because just like Iron Man there's so much more to the story of Arthur than his magic item. Again. What's the character concept and what story do they want to tell? If the idea is 2 identical twins sorceresses who are the same in every way except one really important one - what's the problem? If the story they're going for is, we [I]BOTH[/I] want to be King of England and we're going to fight for it, and only one of us can end up with Excalibur.... Then the problem again is? These sound like awesome stories. If I were DM-ing for these players I would be 100% on board! There are also new feats, new character class options, new subclasses, new settings & new world options. Spells and magic items are one way to get character options but they're far from the only way. And for characters who want to tell different (ie non magic) stories, there's plenty of other options. [/QUOTE]

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