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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8489206" data-attributes="member: 63508">I didn't say they don't have magic items.I'm saying they don't need them.Those martial characters are strong without magic items. Just as dangerous as a caster without magic items.Magic items just made them stronger.When Gourry from Slayers is mind controlled and fights the heroes, it's his skill, speed, and strength that made him dangerous. The magic sword just let him take on the heroes 3 on 1. But he could be any of them 1 on 1. Hegained the option to parry magic missiles instead of easily dodging them.yupOh of course you can't do both. I'mjust saying that many martial class and racial features are locked up in magic items instead of the classes and races themselves.This also means the casters mostly have to be nerfed item wise because they already get all their features from their class already.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8489206, member: 63508"] I didn't say they don't have magic items. I'm saying they don't need them. Those martial characters are strong without magic items. Just as dangerous as a caster without magic items. Magic items just made them stronger. When Gourry from Slayers is mind controlled and fights the heroes, it's his skill, speed, and strength that made him dangerous. The magic sword just let him take on the heroes 3 on 1. But he could be any of them 1 on 1. Hegained the option to parry magic missiles instead of easily dodging them. yup Oh of course you can't do both. I'mjust saying that many martial class and racial features are locked up in magic items instead of the classes and races themselves. This also means the casters mostly have to be nerfed item wise because they already get all their features from their class already. [/QUOTE]

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