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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8492092" data-attributes="member: 6987520">IME I never see this as an issue. Casters can do whatever spells the have/know allow them to do, and even then it is limited by their spell slots. Can casters to "mighty" things? Sure, it's magic after all. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Yeah, I am not for this, either.Perhaps an issue also for me is I don't want my high level martials being "super heroes", but I understand (especially from some of what I've read) that other people do, so I'll go with that spirit...First, I've attached a homebrew class, the Paragon, by [USER=6683613]@TheCosmicKid[/USER] (???) and revised/edited by myself. We've used this class a few times at our table and players like it a lot. Some of the features of this class are more "super heroic".Now, I'll ignore the martial classes who already have spells and/or spell-like features, and focus on those classes who primarily don't. Since Fighters are a favorite, I'll mention a couple things we've done in our 5E mod for Fighters.[spoiler="5E Mod Fighter features"]1. Vastly expanded Fighting Styles. There are 13 in our game, each one has a base benefit, and then two improvements which are gained later on. The first improvement uses your bonus action, the second one requires your reaction.Here is the styles we have:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Archery</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Blind Fighting</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Defense</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Dueling</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Great Weapon Fighting</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Jousting</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Mystic</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Opportunistic Fighting</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Polearm Fighting</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Protection</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Thrown Weapon Fighting</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Two-Weapon Fighting</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Unarmed Fighting</li> </ol>2. Added a feature, Consistent Attack, which allows the Fighter to use his bonus action to make a weapon attack when he takes an action other than the Attack or Cast a Spell action.[/spoiler]But if the Paragon isn't enough, I suppose if you want "super heroics" then anything you do will be close to "magic" in feel. That being said, there is a balance between plausible and magical IMO. The idea of a martial picking up another PC and leaping a 30-foot chasm (with a running start of course LOL) seems like the stuff of Greek heroes (astounding, but plausible), but doing the same thing and leaping a 100-foot chasm falls into the realm of certainly magical/mystical.Now, an alteration I would be all for would be something like improving the Indomitable feature. Instead of allowing you to reroll a failed save, have it allow you to auto-succeed instead (similar to Legendary Resistance maybe?).Maybe have Remarkable Athlete allow you to add your Fighter level to your long jump and half your Fighter level to your high jump instead of just your Strength modifier?Perhaps the Survivor feature could be used when you have 0 hp if you accept a level of exhaustion?Such types of improvements could probably be made to other features for other martial classes and subclasses. Just how outlandish you want to make things depends on where on the continuum between plausible (but awesome) and magical (aka "super heroic"). I know a lot of these aren't really in the magical realm, but it is hard for me to get to crazy since it isn't really my own cup of tea. As to the suggestions I've made, I could probably get on board with that level of enhancement if it was there, but its pushing my limit LOL! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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