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Casters vs Martials: Part 1 - Magic, its most basic components
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<blockquote data-quote="TheOneGargoyle" data-source="post: 8492161" data-attributes="member: 6924207"><p>Lol, of course I get the point!</p><p></p><p>Except that Wizards <em>are</em> required to explain things, they have a magical supernatural power source called "Arcane magic" that enables them to do things. There is a great deal of the game universe devoted to explaining how this works. It's internally consistent.</p><p></p><p>And the other supernatural classes / subclasses are (or should be) all the same. Look at the Rune Knight, how can it do supernatural things like grow huge? You know how, it's right there in the write up, they inscribe Ancient Giant Runes which hold power.</p><p></p><p>Anyone wanting to do supernatural things needs to establish what it is that let's them do it.</p><p></p><p>So, if a player creates a character with a concept that is explicitly a martial archetype with no supernatural power source, and then then says "Oh but I want to be supernatural too, all the cool kids are doing it", a question naturally arises, which is: "OK, what do you want the supernatural power source to be?". They could make a deal with a demon, befriend nature spirits, revere their ancestors, study to cast spells, petition a deity, learn a fragment of the original song of creation, get infected with a mystical disease, get bitten by a radioactive spider, etc, the possibilities are endless.</p><p></p><p>What they don't get to do, is say, here's my char concept but I just want to do awesome things outside my concept because I want to.</p><p></p><p>Let me give you a real world example :</p><p>Driving a car is a pretty darn cool thing to do. So a kid says I want to drive a car too. OK, you need to get a car, lean how to drive it, and get your license. If that kid says "Aww but I don't want to have to do any of that, I just want to be able to zoom around at 100 km/hr by myself without a car or a license" you would say what to them?</p><p></p><p>Whereas this is a great char concept! I would love someone playing a concept like this in my world and would fully support them!</p><p></p><p>Of course, this char mechanically is <em>NOT</em> a pure martial! The entire story that concept is telling is a magical warrior! That's the exact point I'm making <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="😁" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f601.png" title="Beaming face with smiling eyes :grin:" data-shortname=":grin:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheOneGargoyle, post: 8492161, member: 6924207"] Lol, of course I get the point! Except that Wizards [I]are[/I] required to explain things, they have a magical supernatural power source called "Arcane magic" that enables them to do things. There is a great deal of the game universe devoted to explaining how this works. It's internally consistent. And the other supernatural classes / subclasses are (or should be) all the same. Look at the Rune Knight, how can it do supernatural things like grow huge? You know how, it's right there in the write up, they inscribe Ancient Giant Runes which hold power. Anyone wanting to do supernatural things needs to establish what it is that let's them do it. So, if a player creates a character with a concept that is explicitly a martial archetype with no supernatural power source, and then then says "Oh but I want to be supernatural too, all the cool kids are doing it", a question naturally arises, which is: "OK, what do you want the supernatural power source to be?". They could make a deal with a demon, befriend nature spirits, revere their ancestors, study to cast spells, petition a deity, learn a fragment of the original song of creation, get infected with a mystical disease, get bitten by a radioactive spider, etc, the possibilities are endless. What they don't get to do, is say, here's my char concept but I just want to do awesome things outside my concept because I want to. Let me give you a real world example : Driving a car is a pretty darn cool thing to do. So a kid says I want to drive a car too. OK, you need to get a car, lean how to drive it, and get your license. If that kid says "Aww but I don't want to have to do any of that, I just want to be able to zoom around at 100 km/hr by myself without a car or a license" you would say what to them? Whereas this is a great char concept! I would love someone playing a concept like this in my world and would fully support them! Of course, this char mechanically is [I]NOT[/I] a pure martial! The entire story that concept is telling is a magical warrior! That's the exact point I'm making 😁 [/QUOTE]
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