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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5914458" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Really? He doesn't y'know <em>live in that world</em>. He doesn't study the mechanics of magic and have Spellcraft and Knowledge Arcana trained. I take the viewpoint that a smart character with a professional skill knows it better than I do.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Once again, I repeat <em>spells are equipment</em>. Taking the biggest baddest spells you are proficient with is no different from taking the biggest sword you have easy access to. And trying to get a goood spell for a wizard is no different than trying to get a good sword for a wizard. Except that many more wizards have tried out spells than specific swords.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Take your ad-hominem attacks elsewhere please. I'm a Melvin and have already stated that it's my wizards that make these choices, not all my casters. I, as I've stated earlier <em>prefer</em> to play <em>Bards</em> because they don't back me into this RP corner. Now if you're calling someone who likes playing Bards Spike, that's a new one on me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And once more out come the ad-hominem attacks based on your preconceptions. I'm not talking about <em>combos</em>. I'm talking about using <em>PHB</em> spells for their intended purpose. Single PHB spells. I know <em>how</em> to make broken characters. But Wizard 20 should not be one. Neither should Druid 20.</p><p></p><p>And what my games are like is normally 4e. So I can play the character I want to play and won't have to worry much about intended choices overshadowing everyone else.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not working to redline the system. If I were talking about builds like an Ur Priest/Nar Demonbinder/Mystic Theurge you would have a point. But I'm talking about straight wizard built out of the PHB (and PHB Druid's worse). Using simple spells for the purpose for which they were intended. If I were mixing Polymorph and Venomfire again you might have a point. I <em>can</em> redline the system. But all I'm talking about here is using core spells for their intended purpose. Apparently I'm not even allowed to do that.</p><p></p><p>Now, as you seem to want to be personally insulting while not reading my posts I'm not going to read yours any further. If I were to do so I'd lose my temper at you, not at the incompetents who deserve it IRL.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5914458, member: 87792"] Really? He doesn't y'know [I]live in that world[/I]. He doesn't study the mechanics of magic and have Spellcraft and Knowledge Arcana trained. I take the viewpoint that a smart character with a professional skill knows it better than I do. Once again, I repeat [I]spells are equipment[/I]. Taking the biggest baddest spells you are proficient with is no different from taking the biggest sword you have easy access to. And trying to get a goood spell for a wizard is no different than trying to get a good sword for a wizard. Except that many more wizards have tried out spells than specific swords. Take your ad-hominem attacks elsewhere please. I'm a Melvin and have already stated that it's my wizards that make these choices, not all my casters. I, as I've stated earlier [I]prefer[/I] to play [I]Bards[/I] because they don't back me into this RP corner. Now if you're calling someone who likes playing Bards Spike, that's a new one on me. And once more out come the ad-hominem attacks based on your preconceptions. I'm not talking about [I]combos[/I]. I'm talking about using [I]PHB[/I] spells for their intended purpose. Single PHB spells. I know [I]how[/I] to make broken characters. But Wizard 20 should not be one. Neither should Druid 20. And what my games are like is normally 4e. So I can play the character I want to play and won't have to worry much about intended choices overshadowing everyone else. I'm not working to redline the system. If I were talking about builds like an Ur Priest/Nar Demonbinder/Mystic Theurge you would have a point. But I'm talking about straight wizard built out of the PHB (and PHB Druid's worse). Using simple spells for the purpose for which they were intended. If I were mixing Polymorph and Venomfire again you might have a point. I [I]can[/I] redline the system. But all I'm talking about here is using core spells for their intended purpose. Apparently I'm not even allowed to do that. Now, as you seem to want to be personally insulting while not reading my posts I'm not going to read yours any further. If I were to do so I'd lose my temper at you, not at the incompetents who deserve it IRL. [/QUOTE]
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