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<blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6911072" data-attributes="member: 6799649"><p>According to the 5E rules, no you may not.</p><p></p><p>If I were going to make a houserule I would bear in mind that even when previous editions allowed it, the minimum level of the spell was the minimum level required to cast the spell in the first place.</p><p></p><p>For example, in 3E <em>fireball</em> was a 3rd level spell which did 1d6 fire damage per caster level, up to a maximum of 10d6 at 10th level. If you were a 10th level caster, you could choose to cast it as if you were a lower level caster, but the minimum caster level is 5th (the minimum needed to cast a 3rd level spell), so the least you could roll would be 5d6.</p><p></p><p>The trouble for such a houserule is that 5E simply doesn't use 'caster level' as part of the rules for casting spells! The closest they get is 'character level' for cantrips, but spells of level 1 or higher do not use a 'caster level' mechanic, 5E having replaced that for a 'spell slot' mechanic for determining these things. So the equivalent houserule would be the minimum slot level anyway.</p><p></p><p>I recently came across this problem playing my warlock in SKT; she found a Ring of Spell Storing. Being a 5th level warlock at the time, her spells used 3rd level slots even if they are 1st or 2nd level spells. Even though the ring can hold 5 slots-worth of spells, any spell she cast into it uses a 3rd level slot whether she likes it or not (I checked!), and as she got 4th and 5th level slots it didn't have room for her mates to put low level spells in there.</p><p></p><p>Best leave well enough alone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arial Black, post: 6911072, member: 6799649"] According to the 5E rules, no you may not. If I were going to make a houserule I would bear in mind that even when previous editions allowed it, the minimum level of the spell was the minimum level required to cast the spell in the first place. For example, in 3E [I]fireball[/I] was a 3rd level spell which did 1d6 fire damage per caster level, up to a maximum of 10d6 at 10th level. If you were a 10th level caster, you could choose to cast it as if you were a lower level caster, but the minimum caster level is 5th (the minimum needed to cast a 3rd level spell), so the least you could roll would be 5d6. The trouble for such a houserule is that 5E simply doesn't use 'caster level' as part of the rules for casting spells! The closest they get is 'character level' for cantrips, but spells of level 1 or higher do not use a 'caster level' mechanic, 5E having replaced that for a 'spell slot' mechanic for determining these things. So the equivalent houserule would be the minimum slot level anyway. I recently came across this problem playing my warlock in SKT; she found a Ring of Spell Storing. Being a 5th level warlock at the time, her spells used 3rd level slots even if they are 1st or 2nd level spells. Even though the ring can hold 5 slots-worth of spells, any spell she cast into it uses a 3rd level slot whether she likes it or not (I checked!), and as she got 4th and 5th level slots it didn't have room for her mates to put low level spells in there. Best leave well enough alone. [/QUOTE]
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