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Casting Defensively as an Opposed Roll
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<blockquote data-quote="Three_Haligonians" data-source="post: 2848726" data-attributes="member: 19546"><p>In the common house rule thread on the go at the moment, someone mentioned that they follow a system in which Concentration checks to cast defensively do not have a set DC of 15 + spell level, but rather some mechanic that involves opposed rolls - much like that famous Tumble Variant that's out there. In short, the BAB of the opponent comes into play so as to simulate the fact it's harder to cast defensively against a higher skilled (re: higher level) warrior.</p><p></p><p>I like the idea, but I am the DM. One of my players, a sorcerer - so it will actually come into play for her - doesn't. Her arguements (and this may change if it turns out I've gotten it wrong) include that it weakens spell casters, since spells already have to deal with attack rolls, or saves, or SR, or all three! Adding in a fourth way to keep casters from getting their spells off successfully in combat only hinders them and furthermore, what system of opposed rolls would one use?</p><p></p><p>10 + BAB + Spell Level: This might seem a little high</p><p>BAB + Spell Level: This one is too low</p><p></p><p>Am I wrong in thinking that it should be set up so that when up against a fighter of equal level, the wizard should be able to cast defensively 50% of the time?</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I thought I'd come here and see if anyone out there who uses a system like this would be so kind as to explain what they do and how it works for them? Of course, anyone who doesn't use this system but wants to talk about it anyway.. feel free <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Thanks,</p><p></p><p>J from Three Haligonians</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Three_Haligonians, post: 2848726, member: 19546"] In the common house rule thread on the go at the moment, someone mentioned that they follow a system in which Concentration checks to cast defensively do not have a set DC of 15 + spell level, but rather some mechanic that involves opposed rolls - much like that famous Tumble Variant that's out there. In short, the BAB of the opponent comes into play so as to simulate the fact it's harder to cast defensively against a higher skilled (re: higher level) warrior. I like the idea, but I am the DM. One of my players, a sorcerer - so it will actually come into play for her - doesn't. Her arguements (and this may change if it turns out I've gotten it wrong) include that it weakens spell casters, since spells already have to deal with attack rolls, or saves, or SR, or all three! Adding in a fourth way to keep casters from getting their spells off successfully in combat only hinders them and furthermore, what system of opposed rolls would one use? 10 + BAB + Spell Level: This might seem a little high BAB + Spell Level: This one is too low Am I wrong in thinking that it should be set up so that when up against a fighter of equal level, the wizard should be able to cast defensively 50% of the time? Anyway, I thought I'd come here and see if anyone out there who uses a system like this would be so kind as to explain what they do and how it works for them? Of course, anyone who doesn't use this system but wants to talk about it anyway.. feel free :) Thanks, J from Three Haligonians [/QUOTE]
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