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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elocin" data-source="post: 1419163" data-attributes="member: 207">Can someone point me in the right direction in the PHB about where it states the rules for Casting Defensively (CD).  I remember reading somewhere the DC for CD would be against the attackers attack roll if they were in melee combat.  Now when I read about CD in the PHB on pages 140 and 170 all it says that the dc for CD is 15+ the spell level.  I ultimately HATE this rule as there is no way any caster would fail such a save as the highest DC would be 24 and what caster does not stick their full ranks in Concentration (besides for flavor reasons).Can someone point me in the right direction?  Might be too late for my Magister last night as an Ancient Blue Dragon dug a pit underneath me and I was so in his threat range it did not matter at all and I died a horrible death as I failed 3 of my CD checks, but that is another story.  And not that I am typing this I might have read this little CD rule in Monte's AU book and am just getting the two mixed up. (My DM let me try out the Magister in his 3.5 game as I am running an AU campaign next and needed to try some things out to get more familiar with the system.Anyway any help would be appreciated.tia</blockquote>