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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sithramir" data-source="post: 1419872" data-attributes="member: 12183">I'd just like to point out that in my games I use Concentration DC = 15 +2*spell levelThis has worked well in my games as its a bit harder to cast defensively but, in general, you can cast your lower levels spells no problem but perhaps your highest level spell you might fail (since its still new to you it makes sense).This also makes the Combat Casting feat more worth it.I've noticed that most people max out concentration who are mages and i've never heard of someone not having decent ranks until recently.What I found was that because of the current rules, you could put 4 ranks at first level and have a +3 con and never put ranks in it again and still be able to do pretty well with a d20 roll if it came to it. Putting maybe 10 ranks total at 7th level and never more again mean you pretty much cast most of your spell levels guaranteed without any roll chance. Perhaps I see it from playing higher level games that its too weak, but any mage under 7th level who ends up in melee is almost guaranteed dead or the guy he was in melee with wasn't worth putting against the party. d4 hps and a few points of con bonus and he still has a nice critical (or high str double weapon) hit that will kill him anyways.</blockquote>