Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Casting spells in Antimagic Fields
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 5956545" data-attributes="member: 7808"><p>Regardless of my opinion on AMF (for the record, I'm of the opinion that non-instantaneous casting within the AMF is allowed but temporarily suppressed, instantaneous spells fail, and LoE is blocked), I completely disagree with your reasoning here. Mainly because you seem to be using the terms RAW and RAI interchangeably when it comes to Skip's writing.</p><p></p><p>RAW and RAI are two completely different things. If I intend to paint a picture of a square, but the paint ends up in the shape of a circle, no amount of intent in the world changes the circle into a square. Likewise, if a game designer writes "Barbarians have a d12 hit die" but later states in an interview "I meant for Barbarians to have a d20 hit die", his opinion isn't worth anything until there is an errata to actually change the appropriate rules text.</p><p></p><p>Second, RAI by one designer is only relatively meaningful. There was an entire company behind the game, including a team of designers, team of editors, and a team of executives. The intent of one designer is interesting and certainly worth discussion, but is in no way to be taken as the intent of everyone involved.</p><p></p><p>Third, intent can change over time. Skip may intend for AMF to block LoE now, but there's no way to know what his intent was before. In fact, Skip has been known to change and even completely reverse rules decisions he made in FAQ and Sage Advice.</p><p></p><p>What this boils down to is that an argument based on authority of a game designer is meaningless in a RAW argument (unless, of course, the designer is presenting an argument based on logical analysis). Just because one designer decides to house rule something doesn't mean everyone else in the world has to follow the same house rule. Designers can use "Rule 0", too, and it doesn't change what's written the books and errata. When a designer wants to speak <em>ex cathedra</em>, he must do so in errata. Anything else is just musings and opinions, and should (only) be valued as such.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deset Gled, post: 5956545, member: 7808"] Regardless of my opinion on AMF (for the record, I'm of the opinion that non-instantaneous casting within the AMF is allowed but temporarily suppressed, instantaneous spells fail, and LoE is blocked), I completely disagree with your reasoning here. Mainly because you seem to be using the terms RAW and RAI interchangeably when it comes to Skip's writing. RAW and RAI are two completely different things. If I intend to paint a picture of a square, but the paint ends up in the shape of a circle, no amount of intent in the world changes the circle into a square. Likewise, if a game designer writes "Barbarians have a d12 hit die" but later states in an interview "I meant for Barbarians to have a d20 hit die", his opinion isn't worth anything until there is an errata to actually change the appropriate rules text. Second, RAI by one designer is only relatively meaningful. There was an entire company behind the game, including a team of designers, team of editors, and a team of executives. The intent of one designer is interesting and certainly worth discussion, but is in no way to be taken as the intent of everyone involved. Third, intent can change over time. Skip may intend for AMF to block LoE now, but there's no way to know what his intent was before. In fact, Skip has been known to change and even completely reverse rules decisions he made in FAQ and Sage Advice. What this boils down to is that an argument based on authority of a game designer is meaningless in a RAW argument (unless, of course, the designer is presenting an argument based on logical analysis). Just because one designer decides to house rule something doesn't mean everyone else in the world has to follow the same house rule. Designers can use "Rule 0", too, and it doesn't change what's written the books and errata. When a designer wants to speak [I]ex cathedra[/I], he must do so in errata. Anything else is just musings and opinions, and should (only) be valued as such. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Casting spells in Antimagic Fields
Top