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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5956857" data-attributes="member: 6669384">I'll keep it brief:&nbsp; So if the Lightning Bolt area is 100 feet long (just to pick a number), and 20 feet of that are in an AMF, then the spell should &quot;still function in the normal area&quot;.&nbsp; Per the rules, in black and white, an exact quote.Not an opinion, interpretation, or twist of wording, phrasing or logic.&nbsp; That is *EXACTLY* what it says.&nbsp; The only part missing from the rules is the Lightning Bolt specific example.From your side, the only part missing from the rules is your entire position.&nbsp; There is absolutely nothing in the written rules to say that an AMF blocks Line of effect.&nbsp; (If I'm mistaken, then please include the appropriate section of the SRD, as I have done.)To repeat, the spell that partially includes an AMF will still function&nbsp; normally over the rest of its area unless the spell is centered in the&nbsp; AMF.Please explain how this reading is wrong, preferably by doing something other than saying &quot;Because LOE is blocked by the AMF&quot;.&nbsp; Every example I've provided to disprove the LOE blockage *OPINION* has been dismissed BECAUSE it disproves the LOE blockage opinion.&nbsp; That's a perfect example of arguing in bad faith.What's funny to me (no sarcasm or put-down here) is that you have a problem with &quot;quantum tunneling&quot; of a Lightning Bolt (an effect that really exists and is 100% appropriate for a charged particle stream entering an area where it cannot exist in its current state), but can accept magical lightning.&nbsp; I normally hate attempts to argue physics in a magical world, but the parallel was just too good.&lt;edit&gt;Yes, I can see the argument that AOE spells have a &quot;point of origin&quot;.&nbsp; However, AMF specifically says that casting spells into an AMF automatically fails.&nbsp; Pretty clear, over all.&lt;/edit&gt;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 5956857, member: 6669384"] I'll keep it brief: So if the [I]Lightning Bolt[/I] area is 100 feet long (just to pick a number), and 20 feet of that are in an AMF, then the spell should "still function in the normal area". Per the rules, in black and white, an exact quote. Not an opinion, interpretation, or twist of wording, phrasing or logic. That is *EXACTLY* what it says. The only part missing from the rules is the [I]Lightning Bolt[/I] specific example. From your side, the only part missing from the rules is your entire position. There is absolutely nothing in the written rules to say that an AMF blocks Line of effect. (If I'm mistaken, then please include the appropriate section of the SRD, as I have done.) To repeat, the spell that partially includes an AMF will still function normally over the rest of its area unless the spell is centered in the AMF. Please explain how this reading is wrong, preferably by doing something other than saying "Because LOE is blocked by the AMF". Every example I've provided to disprove the LOE blockage *OPINION* has been dismissed [I]BECAUSE[/I] it disproves the LOE blockage opinion. That's a perfect example of arguing in bad faith. What's funny to me (no sarcasm or put-down here) is that you have a problem with "quantum tunneling" of a [I]Lightning Bolt[/I] (an effect that really exists and is 100% appropriate for a charged particle stream entering an area where it cannot exist in its current state), but can accept magical lightning. I normally hate attempts to argue physics in a magical world, but the parallel was just too good. <edit>Yes, I can see the argument that AOE spells have a "point of origin". However, AMF specifically says that casting spells into an AMF automatically fails. Pretty clear, over all.</edit> [/QUOTE]

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