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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Magus_Jerel" data-source="post: 137207" data-attributes="member: 3940">Good question -Now - I will explain this under the core rules.AMF does NOT block any "line of effect" - it is not a solid barrier.  This means you can "fire through" - but not WITHIN an AMF.Now - if an effect goes off around - or even "within" the AMF - it cannot affect anything within it, but it can affect anything outside it.Example - An enemy sorcerer casts fireball directly at an enemy wizard with AMF functioning.  The wizard's familiar is 15 feet away.What happens?The familiar is affected by the fireball - the wizard is not.Why?AMF suppresses all effects that come within the AMF - it does NOT dispel them.  Remember this little fact.  The sage has stated this repeatedly.  AMF  therefore "supresses" the "center" of the fireball - but not the edge of the blast.  The familiar is 15 feet away - not inside the AMF.  He is inside the burst area of the fireball spell.  Like any other target that is less than 10 ft - but more than 20 feet away from the wizard/fireball point - the poor familiar is affected by the fireball.AMF can only affect magic attempting to operate WITHIN its confines - not outside the confines of the field.  This is NOT true of a "dead magic area" - if you are in the FRCS.  If you attempt to cast thru such a field - your spell fails.  It is GONE the moment it enters such an area - magic ceases to exist at the barrier.Now - there is nothing that stops a spell or ability from coming into effect while the "target" is inside an AMF - but it does prevent it's functioning.example:A Vampire uses it's dominate ability against a character inside an AMF.  What happens?The ability takes effect, but is supressed - the "control" cannot be exercised until the AMF is gone - and the spell is unsupressed.There is nothing which prevents you from concentrating on a spell either - but it would be highly problematic (if you take the AMF prevents spellcasting opinion) to actually cast a spell with AMF in place.  Now, you are confronted with a potential paradox if you move into an AMF while concentrating - as you are forced to answer wether or not concentration is a "function" of that spell or not.------------------ The ProblemNow - what IS ambiguous is what happens if a spell attempts to start inside an AMF.To rule for it being cast - do the following:A spell that is "supressed" at the moment of casting is not countered. Precedent: Minor Globe of Invulnerability and globe of invulnerability.As the magical effect is merely supressed - not dispelled or countered - then it works normally if and when it, or any part of it, leaves the area.To rule against - read AMF as follows:Likewise, it (AMF) prevents the functioning of any magic items or spells within it's confines.It is a function of a spell to "be cast", in the same respect a magic item is activated.  Therefore spells cannot be cast within AMF whatsoever.  If a player attempts this - it simply "doesn't work".  Use of any and all SLA's presently existing would be prevented by this wording. Supernatural abilities would require a "case by case" ruling.I personally am inclined to rule FOR this - as ruling against it creates certain paradoxical situations.1. What happens if I attempt to use a spell that is unaffected by AMF - such as wall of force - with this spell up?2. Can I continue concentrating on a spell if I move into an AMF?3. Can I exercise control over a spell already "in place" - such as a dominate spell placed on an opponent?4. Can I exercise magical control granted to me by supernatural power - ie continue to command and control undead?5. Can I concentrate on a spell with AMF in place upon myself?....Too many logic problems.Is it abuseable in certain situations? probably.  But - the wizard is without all his buff spells - and his toys... meaning that he makes nice archer bait if he uses this spell.  Nice to let the fighter do something every now and then at high levels... yes?Of course - there IS a a real "screw" that an abusive GM can use.  Just pick up a monster with Damage reduction X/+1 or higher - and give it the ability to cast this spell.  Supernatural abilities aren't necessarily supressed by AMF - gee... I guess DR is one of those that isn't...For My own campaign - I have changed those abilities that would not be shut off by AMF tjhat ARE Supernatural to Extraordiary - and stated that Supernatural abilities are universally denied.  Basically - a Su ability requires magic - an Ex one does not.</blockquote>

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