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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2071816" data-attributes="member: 23094"><p>Let's try this again.</p><p></p><p>I'm holding a touch spell.</p><p></p><p>I'm currently defending myself from two enemy warriors - Ebert and Roper. Standing next to me is my ally, Frederick. It probably looks a lot like this, where M is "Me":</p><p></p><p>----</p><p>-ER-</p><p>-MF-</p><p>----</p><p></p><p>We've all got 5' reach, so we all threaten each other.</p><p></p><p>If I decide to target Ebert with my touch spell, I make a melee touch attack. If I hit, the spell discharges on him.</p><p></p><p>If I decide to target Roper with my touch spell, I make a melee touch attack. If I hit, the spell discharges on him.</p><p></p><p>If I decide to target Frederick with my touch spell, it automatically hits, and the spell discharges on him.</p><p></p><p>According to you, only the last situation provokes an AoO.</p><p></p><p>Given that it is <strong>easier</strong> for me to target my ally, why does touching him provoke an AoO from both Ebert and Roper, when targeting Ebert does not provoke an AoO from Roper?</p><p></p><p>Do you understand the weirdness of the way you are ruling?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I want the specific text that says that employing a touch spell on an ally provokes an AoO - apart from the normal rule that casting any spell provokes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree completely. Note, also, that the cleric can cast the spell in a non-threatened area, move up to his movement, and <em>still</em> deliver the touch spell - all in one round! And even target an enemy with it! And none of this will provoke an AoO (unless, of course, he decides to move past some enemies, provoking based on his movement).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem is that they are <strong>not</strong> pretty specific about the latter case causing an AoO, and I challenge you to find any example, anywhere, of them saying anything remotely like this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 2071816, member: 23094"] Let's try this again. I'm holding a touch spell. I'm currently defending myself from two enemy warriors - Ebert and Roper. Standing next to me is my ally, Frederick. It probably looks a lot like this, where M is "Me": ---- -ER- -MF- ---- We've all got 5' reach, so we all threaten each other. If I decide to target Ebert with my touch spell, I make a melee touch attack. If I hit, the spell discharges on him. If I decide to target Roper with my touch spell, I make a melee touch attack. If I hit, the spell discharges on him. If I decide to target Frederick with my touch spell, it automatically hits, and the spell discharges on him. According to you, only the last situation provokes an AoO. Given that it is [b]easier[/b] for me to target my ally, why does touching him provoke an AoO from both Ebert and Roper, when targeting Ebert does not provoke an AoO from Roper? Do you understand the weirdness of the way you are ruling? I want the specific text that says that employing a touch spell on an ally provokes an AoO - apart from the normal rule that casting any spell provokes. I agree completely. Note, also, that the cleric can cast the spell in a non-threatened area, move up to his movement, and [i]still[/i] deliver the touch spell - all in one round! And even target an enemy with it! And none of this will provoke an AoO (unless, of course, he decides to move past some enemies, provoking based on his movement). Why? The problem is that they are [b]not[/b] pretty specific about the latter case causing an AoO, and I challenge you to find any example, anywhere, of them saying anything remotely like this. [/QUOTE]
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