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<blockquote data-quote="Herbalizer" data-source="post: 6854122" data-attributes="member: 6824144"><p>Which is exactly my point ! Because the Bard uses a spellcasting focus that is in reality useless in combat, he seems to have a huge disadvantage !! I mean, even a Wizard (with Shield proficiency) could cast spells with Both Somatic and Material components while holding on to his shield AND his weapon (since the spell focus could be embedded in the staff) ...In fact, if the Bard chooses to go with a component pouch, he'd be more effective since he could Sheath his weapon, reach into his component pouch and use the Material while doing the Somatic with the same hand ! Which kind of defeats the purpose of being, you know, a Bard ...It'd be a Bard who never plays music because rules made it more efficient for him to use Materials instead ! </p><p></p><p>And in the example above, I guess at round 5, the Bard could drop his weapon instead and then cast, but I find that completely unrealistic ! Who, would do such a thing in combat ?! Plus, I know the PHB says picking up a "dropped weapon" can be done in tandem with your action (attacking) and movement, but I find this unreasonable ..If someone is disarmed (or drop his weapon), they should have to use 1 action to pick up the weapon ...if you are fighting someone face to face and you have to pick up your weapon, you're obviously not in position to fight the same way as if you were standing up and preparing your next attack</p><p></p><p>And yes, it is ridiculous that the Bard can just hold his lyre in one hand (and not play) and wave it around to cast a spell ...I guess I wish that this rule was better written (spell focus and action sequence) specifically for Bards because of that huge disadvantage ...and if it's meant to be a disadvantage (because Bards are finally strong), than at least clearly point it out</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herbalizer, post: 6854122, member: 6824144"] Which is exactly my point ! Because the Bard uses a spellcasting focus that is in reality useless in combat, he seems to have a huge disadvantage !! I mean, even a Wizard (with Shield proficiency) could cast spells with Both Somatic and Material components while holding on to his shield AND his weapon (since the spell focus could be embedded in the staff) ...In fact, if the Bard chooses to go with a component pouch, he'd be more effective since he could Sheath his weapon, reach into his component pouch and use the Material while doing the Somatic with the same hand ! Which kind of defeats the purpose of being, you know, a Bard ...It'd be a Bard who never plays music because rules made it more efficient for him to use Materials instead ! And in the example above, I guess at round 5, the Bard could drop his weapon instead and then cast, but I find that completely unrealistic ! Who, would do such a thing in combat ?! Plus, I know the PHB says picking up a "dropped weapon" can be done in tandem with your action (attacking) and movement, but I find this unreasonable ..If someone is disarmed (or drop his weapon), they should have to use 1 action to pick up the weapon ...if you are fighting someone face to face and you have to pick up your weapon, you're obviously not in position to fight the same way as if you were standing up and preparing your next attack And yes, it is ridiculous that the Bard can just hold his lyre in one hand (and not play) and wave it around to cast a spell ...I guess I wish that this rule was better written (spell focus and action sequence) specifically for Bards because of that huge disadvantage ...and if it's meant to be a disadvantage (because Bards are finally strong), than at least clearly point it out [/QUOTE]
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