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<blockquote data-quote="AtomicPope" data-source="post: 6854187" data-attributes="member: 64790">Lore Bards are easy to play.&nbsp; Interacting with an instrument is no problem because you have lots of spells to choose from.&nbsp; You can fake it and pretend that you're &quot;singing&quot; a spell because you're concentrating.&nbsp; Spells are the Lore Bard, but the Valor Bard is so sharply divided between magic, melee, and music the Valor Bard is always struggling.&nbsp; This is my primary complaint about the 5e Valor Bard - no songs, and instruments interfere with fighting.I played a Skald human variant Bard with Mobility Feat to act like a swift-footed Viking Raider.&nbsp; We rolled stats so I had a better spread of bonuses.&nbsp; Once I was able to use a Shield I needed the Warcaster Feat otherwise I'd never cast a spell.&nbsp; More importantly, I never used my horn.&nbsp; I never sung a note except the Song of Rest.&nbsp; Much of the game play of the 5e Bard is better than previous editions and I've played lots of Bards, and back in 1e Bards hardly played music at all.&nbsp; The need for a magic instrument was paramount back then and it is again in 5e.&nbsp; By the time we got to 3e the Bard served exclusively as a living bonus.&nbsp; In 3e the Bard rarely acts at all.&nbsp; They start a song and don't stop.&nbsp; In 3e you had to take the Lingering Song feat just to keep the bonuses going when you stopped playing so you could do something else.&nbsp; With 5e there are no combat songs, just an Inspiration.&nbsp; If I were to sound my horn and basically summon the entire dungeon, I'd like to better do a little more than hand out a single D8.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AtomicPope, post: 6854187, member: 64790"] Lore Bards are easy to play. Interacting with an instrument is no problem because you have lots of spells to choose from. You can fake it and pretend that you're "singing" a spell because you're concentrating. Spells are the Lore Bard, but the Valor Bard is so sharply divided between magic, melee, and music the Valor Bard is always struggling. This is my primary complaint about the 5e Valor Bard - no songs, and instruments interfere with fighting. I played a Skald human variant Bard with Mobility Feat to act like a swift-footed Viking Raider. We rolled stats so I had a better spread of bonuses. Once I was able to use a Shield I needed the Warcaster Feat otherwise I'd never cast a spell. More importantly, I never used my horn. I never sung a note except the Song of Rest. Much of the game play of the 5e Bard is better than previous editions and I've played lots of Bards, and back in 1e Bards hardly played music at all. The need for a magic instrument was paramount back then and it is again in 5e. By the time we got to 3e the Bard served exclusively as a living bonus. In 3e the Bard rarely acts at all. They start a song and don't stop. In 3e you had to take the Lingering Song feat just to keep the bonuses going when you stopped playing so you could do something else. With 5e there are no combat songs, just an Inspiration. If I were to sound my horn and basically summon the entire dungeon, I'd like to better do a little more than hand out a single D8. [/QUOTE]

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