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<blockquote data-quote="Herbalizer" data-source="post: 6854985" data-attributes="member: 6824144">The Valor Bard is a branch of the Bard class ..they made it that way, giving him access to medium armor, shield, 2 attacks ...It's there, they created it ..and the Valor Bard (with Shield and all) COULD cast any spells with M components at any time if he was using a component pouch instead ...Sure, you might prefer this method of casting spells in the middle of combat, but the fact remains that the concept of the class is that the character is a musician and it's kind of silly that rules prevent you from using your instruments to cast a spell but allows you to use a component pouch.No, because often the Wizards' or Sorcerers' spell focus will be the weapon (Orb embedded in a quarterstaff) ..hence, they don't have to &quot;switch weapon&quot; during a round to cast a spell with Material components.That's one thing but not the only one ...If the rules state that a spell focus requires only 1 hand, and/but most musical instrument requires 2, they should have only allowed 1-handed spell focus ...and I hate the &quot;logic&quot; of waving a lure with one hand because &quot;the rules never said the instrument should be played&quot;..why ?&nbsp; any other caster could use their spell focus, why not have the Bard &quot;play&quot; ?...and that's the other thing ...the main one in fact.&nbsp; The Bard (while wearing a shield) CAN cast all spells with Material components if he's not using a spell focus, but using a component pouch instead ...So basically, the rules makes the Bard (a musician) more effective if he doesn't play musical instruments and is played as a &quot;wizard&quot; instead ...If they wanted to create a class that channels magic through musical instruments (which they obviously did), they should have facilitated this by making it possible for the Bard to cast spells the way it was designed to, which is playing an instrument, and not penalizing the character for doing so !</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Herbalizer, post: 6854985, member: 6824144"] The Valor Bard is a branch of the Bard class ..they made it that way, giving him access to medium armor, shield, 2 attacks ...It's there, they created it ..and the Valor Bard (with Shield and all) COULD cast any spells with M components at any time if he was using a component pouch instead ...Sure, you might prefer this method of casting spells in the middle of combat, but the fact remains that the concept of the class is that the character is a musician and it's kind of silly that rules prevent you from using your instruments to cast a spell but allows you to use a component pouch. No, because often the Wizards' or Sorcerers' spell focus will be the weapon (Orb embedded in a quarterstaff) ..hence, they don't have to "switch weapon" during a round to cast a spell with Material components. That's one thing but not the only one ...If the rules state that a spell focus requires only 1 hand, and/but most musical instrument requires 2, they should have only allowed 1-handed spell focus ...and I hate the "logic" of waving a lure with one hand because "the rules never said the instrument should be played".. why ? any other caster could use their spell focus, why not have the Bard "play" ? ...and that's the other thing ...the main one in fact. The Bard (while wearing a shield) CAN cast all spells with Material components if he's not using a spell focus, but using a component pouch instead ...So basically, the rules makes the Bard (a musician) more effective if he doesn't play musical instruments and is played as a "wizard" instead ... If they wanted to create a class that channels magic through musical instruments (which they obviously did), they should have facilitated this by making it possible for the Bard to cast spells the way it was designed to, which is playing an instrument, and not penalizing the character for doing so ! [/QUOTE]

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