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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jackelope King" data-source="post: 4039031" data-attributes="member: 31454">The more I think on it, the more I become convinced that C&C is to old-school gamers what a "fixer-upper" is to a handy couple going house-shopping. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing depends entirely on your tastes. For me, it's a bad thing only in that C&C decided to gum up a workable and very interesting simple resolution mechanic (the SIEGE Engine) with what feels like too many old-school-ism.I think the difference between "why not go to a rules-lite system and add what you want in?" and "if you have a system that you're going to modify to take a bunch out to make it more rules-lite" is one of intent. I would vastly prefer a complete system which would let me yank out parts I didn't like than a rules-lite system which tells me to "do it myself" when it has a gap. The contradictory subsystems from older games are something I disliked, and I much prefer a unified approach which would provide guidance as to how to take a basic mechanic (such as d20 + modifier vs. DC) and use that foundation to apply it to novel situations (such as resolving how to throw sand in your enemy's eyes and making it fair).It's more likely that someone will pick the former (C&C) when they already have a bunch of subsystems from disparate games in their libraries that they want to add to it.</blockquote>