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<blockquote data-quote="Shayuri" data-source="post: 522870" data-attributes="member: 4936">&gt;&gt;In regards to earth elementals tunneling, I don’t see any reference to this in the MM. I know they used to be able to, but I don’t see it in the rules. I could use them that way, but I’m trying to keep pretty close to the rules to learn 3E. I’m a 1st edition Dinosaur.-- It's still there in 3rd, it's just not listed as a power, per se. Check out the Movement line in the stat block. You'll see &quot;Burrowing&quot; listed there. This means they can move at the listed speed through the earth.&gt;&gt;One more question on an unrelated (and probably beaten to death) topic: Can a druid move through his own entanglement in 3E?-- I don't THINK so, no. I don't see anything in the spell description that excludes the caster from its effects, and the Druid power to pass without a trace doesn't apply to magically affected vegetation.To amplify some of the comments of others though, magic can make a castle largely obsolete. Those trolls could just as easily have Fly as Invisibility, for example. Or both! Elementals of Earth and Air can get in without worrying about the walls at all. In a fantasy setting, a curtain wall is mainly just an inconvenience for a large army. A smaller force with appropriate magic will pierce straight to the keep...and a good castle design will anticipate that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shayuri, post: 522870, member: 4936"] >>In regards to earth elementals tunneling, I don’t see any reference to this in the MM. I know they used to be able to, but I don’t see it in the rules. I could use them that way, but I’m trying to keep pretty close to the rules to learn 3E. I’m a 1st edition Dinosaur. -- It's still there in 3rd, it's just not listed as a power, per se. Check out the Movement line in the stat block. You'll see "Burrowing" listed there. This means they can move at the listed speed through the earth. >>One more question on an unrelated (and probably beaten to death) topic: Can a druid move through his own entanglement in 3E? -- I don't THINK so, no. I don't see anything in the spell description that excludes the caster from its effects, and the Druid power to pass without a trace doesn't apply to magically affected vegetation. To amplify some of the comments of others though, magic can make a castle largely obsolete. Those trolls could just as easily have Fly as Invisibility, for example. Or both! Elementals of Earth and Air can get in without worrying about the walls at all. In a fantasy setting, a curtain wall is mainly just an inconvenience for a large army. A smaller force with appropriate magic will pierce straight to the keep...and a good castle design will anticipate that. :) [/QUOTE]

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