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<blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 4514263" data-attributes="member: 10177"><p>Well, let me do some fact checking here.</p><p></p><p>Number one, no LA or CZ material was being destroyed due to WOTC, or D20, except for the World Builder book series Gary did/edited. This is because they were published under the D20 license. LA and CZ were only published either without the OGL or OGL only, so no destruction is necessary.</p><p></p><p>The LA material was being sold off due to the license cancellation with Gail, period.</p><p></p><p>Number 2, nothing official has been stated by TLG, in fact the Gygax Games news announcement indicated TLG would be keeping the CZ license, but has since been refuted by the foolish removal of Jeff T. from the project. </p><p></p><p>Jeff T. had been working hand in hand with Gary for the last couple of years, he is the one who knows what Gary wanted to do, what directions Gary wanted to take. Anyone else doing it willl not be Gary's Castle, it will be someone elses interpretation of Gary;s Castle. May as well go hunt down the old Ruins module now, because it will be no less authoritative then what will now be done without Jeff T. being involved.</p><p></p><p>The only good thing is that Gary did write up some kind of bible about CZ, so at least the maps, and much of what is encountered, will be what Gary wanted in a general sense. Only Jeff can add the personal elements Gary wanted put into it.</p><p></p><p>So I seriously doubt I'll be buying any more of CZ, it won't be any more authentic than if RJK or someone from WOTC wrote it. Neither of them have been privy to what Gary's thoughts had been for the last 2 years, Jeff was.</p><p></p><p>As for the "4 more years" comment, CZ 2 is pretty much done, layout, art, everything. Now its all undone.</p><p></p><p>These are the facts I have picked up from the TLG and DF forums and posts by Ghul (Jeff T.), Gideon Thorne, and the other Trolls comments posted.</p><p></p><p>I am hoping and praying that the Trolls have yet to make an announcement because they are still trying to get control of CZ back. It sounds like they are failing, but I have to remain hopeful, since that will likely mean Ghul's return, and therefore the return of the "authentic" Castle Zagyg by Gary Gygax.</p><p></p><p>Gygax Games will have to give me a hard sell to convince me anyone else can do as good a job of giving me that as Jeff T. can. No one else has been working anywhere near as closely with Gary on this project for the last couple of years. No one. The next closest is Peter Bradly, and he is still with TLG and his art/maps (that were given Gary's approval before his death) are being returned to him as well.</p><p></p><p>So as the facts look right now, there is no authentic Gary Gygax's Castle Zagyg forthcoming from Gygax Games, only a facsimile interpreted from Gary's "bible" notes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treebore, post: 4514263, member: 10177"] Well, let me do some fact checking here. Number one, no LA or CZ material was being destroyed due to WOTC, or D20, except for the World Builder book series Gary did/edited. This is because they were published under the D20 license. LA and CZ were only published either without the OGL or OGL only, so no destruction is necessary. The LA material was being sold off due to the license cancellation with Gail, period. Number 2, nothing official has been stated by TLG, in fact the Gygax Games news announcement indicated TLG would be keeping the CZ license, but has since been refuted by the foolish removal of Jeff T. from the project. Jeff T. had been working hand in hand with Gary for the last couple of years, he is the one who knows what Gary wanted to do, what directions Gary wanted to take. Anyone else doing it willl not be Gary's Castle, it will be someone elses interpretation of Gary;s Castle. May as well go hunt down the old Ruins module now, because it will be no less authoritative then what will now be done without Jeff T. being involved. The only good thing is that Gary did write up some kind of bible about CZ, so at least the maps, and much of what is encountered, will be what Gary wanted in a general sense. Only Jeff can add the personal elements Gary wanted put into it. So I seriously doubt I'll be buying any more of CZ, it won't be any more authentic than if RJK or someone from WOTC wrote it. Neither of them have been privy to what Gary's thoughts had been for the last 2 years, Jeff was. As for the "4 more years" comment, CZ 2 is pretty much done, layout, art, everything. Now its all undone. These are the facts I have picked up from the TLG and DF forums and posts by Ghul (Jeff T.), Gideon Thorne, and the other Trolls comments posted. I am hoping and praying that the Trolls have yet to make an announcement because they are still trying to get control of CZ back. It sounds like they are failing, but I have to remain hopeful, since that will likely mean Ghul's return, and therefore the return of the "authentic" Castle Zagyg by Gary Gygax. Gygax Games will have to give me a hard sell to convince me anyone else can do as good a job of giving me that as Jeff T. can. No one else has been working anywhere near as closely with Gary on this project for the last couple of years. No one. The next closest is Peter Bradly, and he is still with TLG and his art/maps (that were given Gary's approval before his death) are being returned to him as well. So as the facts look right now, there is no authentic Gary Gygax's Castle Zagyg forthcoming from Gygax Games, only a facsimile interpreted from Gary's "bible" notes. [/QUOTE]
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