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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jdrakeh" data-source="post: 4514300" data-attributes="member: 13892">And I never said that this was the case. What I said was that there had been a notice indicating that the other Gygaxian material (i.e., material other than CZ, including the world builder books) was being discontinued due to request of the new owners. That notice has since disappeared and been replaced by the notice about the mandatory destruction of books bearing the d20 logo and, in the case of the LA material, no notice at all.  And I never stated anything about this with regard to CZ, one way or the other. This is true. However, it's also true that Jeff lacks any actual play experience with the castle during its initial genesis, something that other authors do have. Likewise, Jeff isn't an original creator of the dungeon, while Rob Kuntz is. This actual play experience of the original dungeon as it existed during the days of its genesis, as well as insight into the original dungeon design, would be the second best thing to Gary's own, personal, knowledge, IMHO. Both sides of the issue have their upsides and downsides. You pretty much nail the advantages of having Jeff continue the work on CZ, while the downside (IMO, anyhow) is that the dungeon as it currently exists isn't the same dungeon that existed back in the day, by virtue of excluding material from the other author who originally contributed to the work. If you bring in Rob Kuntz, you get access to that other, original, material currently absent from the dungeon and the perspective of the original Greyhawk campaign's co-DM and co-creator. No offense intended, but that same claim has been made about the CKG dozens of times since late 2004 — and it's still being made every so often, despite the fact that the book has yet to see print. Similarly, the CZ products have been notoriously delayed. That has destroyed any credibility that TLG had with me (and others) regarding the ability to meet promised release dates.</blockquote>

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