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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 4514651" data-attributes="member: 10177">Yeah, Breakdaddy lives near and games with the Trolls. I know Steve has stated a hope for a Christmas release, but I admit I have thought GenCon 2009 was likely a more realistic expectation. So I can believe Breakdaddy is likely correct on it being a realistic date.As for the CKG, there was a point when they were working on it, then their ideas for it took a major change. This also coincided with one of the Trolls dealing with multiple surgeries his little girl ended up having to go through for over a year. Which is one of the biggest reasons the CKG sat still long enough to go through such a concept change. Plus even we "fans" didn't know about the daughters surgeries until a few months ago when they finally decided to let us know. Breakdaddy likely knew since he games with them, but he obviously kept his mouth shut the whole time.Still, they didn't claim, in any official capacity, a hard release date since their initial announced release date. They have posted "hoped for" time frames several times, including this past GenCon, but nothing has been officially stated. Heck, Star SIEGE, released this past GenCon had an official release date of last March. So they recently burned themselves on a release date. So hopefully they will only give official dates when its coming back from the printers, when they print out of house.As for Castle Zagyg and Gary and Rob, maybe you have mixed them together, but my think has always been Gary Gygax=Castle Z.  RJK has never been part of that equation  for me.So even though I know they have collaborated, and maybe even ran things in each others "parts" of the Castle like you remember reading, but RJK has never been a creator of the castle for me. Its only been Gary's creation in my mind, so thats why I could care less about anything RJK did, or does. I simply do not consider anything he does to be "official" for the Castle.I do know how Robilar came about, but again, its not Castle Robilar we are talking about, its Castle Zagyg.If RJK wanted to do his own Castle Robilar, I would be interested. Only Castle Zagyg can be done by Gary Gygax. Now Gygax Games got rid of the only person who intimately knows what Gary wanted done, things never written in that bible. Now we won't get that vision, those unwritten ideas, those final inspirations Gary had and never wrote into that "bible", and only Ghul heard and knew about.Now we only get what was written in that "bible" and how the new writers interpret those notes, and it saddens me greatly.</blockquote>

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