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Castles are worthless against armies with mages?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ranger19k" data-source="post: 5533372" data-attributes="member: 98621"><p>I flipped through the stronghold builders guide to see if it did mention any possibility of creating horizontal walls of force. In a world with beaucoup flying menaces (from rampaging dragons to flying wizards dropping shrunken mountain tops and everything in between), it seems to me that something like a "Space Balls" style Air-Shield would seem pretty appealing.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, the stronghold builders guide does talk about using Walls of Force horizontally in two places: protected domed observatories (so a domed roof), and referencing the cube of force magic item from the DMG. The fact that it references a couple instances, leads one to believe that it should be possible, but in true publishing brilliance, they fail to mention any rules-based mechanism for completing this task. So I guess it's up to house ruling responsibility (or wishes, or researched spells, or what-have-you).</p><p></p><p>As mentioned above though, I guess it would be quite expensive to put a permanent wall of force dome over a castle, even if you could figure out how to do it. The book throws out 13,150 gp for a permanent Wall of Force by a 13th level caster, so that's 13 10' squares. So if you flung up 10 of them, covering 130 10foot squares, that would run you 131,500 gp. While not enough to cover the whole castle, I guess you could cover some of the more valuable parts with a force-shield - inner keep, gate, key wall positions, ect.</p><p></p><p>For a high level character settling down? Maybe. Probably not. But someone ought to do it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ranger19k, post: 5533372, member: 98621"] I flipped through the stronghold builders guide to see if it did mention any possibility of creating horizontal walls of force. In a world with beaucoup flying menaces (from rampaging dragons to flying wizards dropping shrunken mountain tops and everything in between), it seems to me that something like a "Space Balls" style Air-Shield would seem pretty appealing. Anyway, the stronghold builders guide does talk about using Walls of Force horizontally in two places: protected domed observatories (so a domed roof), and referencing the cube of force magic item from the DMG. The fact that it references a couple instances, leads one to believe that it should be possible, but in true publishing brilliance, they fail to mention any rules-based mechanism for completing this task. So I guess it's up to house ruling responsibility (or wishes, or researched spells, or what-have-you). As mentioned above though, I guess it would be quite expensive to put a permanent wall of force dome over a castle, even if you could figure out how to do it. The book throws out 13,150 gp for a permanent Wall of Force by a 13th level caster, so that's 13 10' squares. So if you flung up 10 of them, covering 130 10foot squares, that would run you 131,500 gp. While not enough to cover the whole castle, I guess you could cover some of the more valuable parts with a force-shield - inner keep, gate, key wall positions, ect. For a high level character settling down? Maybe. Probably not. But someone ought to do it. [/QUOTE]
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