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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Frostmarrow" data-source="post: 1805861" data-attributes="member: 1122">Quite simply I wouldn't try to protect the less talented talkers with checks. The thing is that some people are bad with tactics. Others are brilliant. Some people lead and yet others have a hard time just to follow. Some people are silver tongued and others are tongue-tied. That's just the way things are.The thing I've always loved with RPGs are the ways I can better myself by playing them. I can draw a hero carrying a sword, I can make an argument with a town guard, I can make a coherent legal/rules argument with my DM, I can read English, I can add, et c. Those are the things I've learned from playing RPGs. By taking away the opportunity to argue a point in game (and making a check instead) you take away a perfect opportunity for me to practice my glib. That's just the way I see it.Demosthenes couldn't argue a point. In fact he couldn't even pronunce words correctly. However, he became the father of rhetoric just the same by realising his limitations and practising his art.</blockquote>