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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Grayhawk" data-source="post: 1817906" data-attributes="member: 11288">Really? You've never seen a player - who you knew to be capable of being charming and glib of tongue - play a low Chr character as an either shy, silent type or as an annoying, abrasive type?An objective system? Yes. Does every type of game need an objective system? I don't believe so.Exactly  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I'm by no means saying that roleplaying social interactions is universally better than having a mechanic to govern such situations. I'm just saying that to some it's preferable.I disagree. In my experience most DM's I've played with have been perfectly capable of handling such situations in a 'realistic' and satisfying manner - without the need of rules on how this level of Diplomacy affects that DC.To you. As mentioned in my post above, I can certainly understand this side of the argument, and if having rules in place for social interactions makes the game better to you, that's great. Me, I've had my best roleplaying experiences in previous editions that didn't have rules in place for such things, and as such I convinced that such rules aren't necessary *for the style of play enjoyed by me and my group*.Which would be no fault of the 'subjective system' as much as just bad DM'ing, which I suspect can happen when using an 'objective' system as well.</blockquote>

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