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<blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 5375467" data-attributes="member: 10177"><p>Bland? Maybe you should try some of my house rules to spice it up, looks like a lot, but in play it hardly slows down play:</p><p></p><p></p><p>CLASSES:</p><p></p><p>Fighters:</p><p>They get to use their BtH to make combat related SIEGE checks, plus their specialization bonuses when using that weapon. All other classes use just their BtH.</p><p></p><p>Fighters can also learn to master (specialize) a new weapon every 3 levels. So at 4th, 7th, 10th, and so on they can master a new weapon. They only get the +1 to hit and damage. These additional weapons never increase to +2 like your first weapon does. Unless you use one of your additional "mastery's" to do so. So if you want to be +2 with the bow, you can use your 4th and 7th level mastery to do so. To be clear, the 7th level bonus can only be used to up your fist chosen weapon to +2, or you keep it at +1 and chose a different weapon to have a +1. You do not increase your first weapon to +2 and pick an additional weapon to +1, you do not get both.</p><p></p><p>Combat Dominance is now "Mass Combat Dominance". They get multiple attacks per round whenever the Fighter is taking on 3 or more opponents at one time. Irregardless of HD. 1 attack per opponent, this replaces any other attacks.</p><p></p><p>Edit: Beginning of nocking two arrows rules:</p><p></p><p>1d20+12 to knock two arrows</p><p>then two attacks at -6</p><p>1d20+9 to knock two arrows</p><p>then two attacks at -9</p><p>Check 1d20+12 for extra attack</p><p>1d20+6 to knock two arrows</p><p>then two attacks at -12</p><p></p><p>Clerics:</p><p>Clerics can do SIEGE checks similar to Wizards.</p><p>Clerics can spontaneously convert spells to damage healing spells (IE restore HP's)</p><p>Clerics get to add their level to damage healing spells, which increases the amount healed up to the maximum. For example Cure Light cast by a 5th level Cleric rolls 1d8+5 up to a maximum of 8, not 13.</p><p></p><p>Rangers:</p><p>Get to choose an enemy at 6th level and every other level thereafter. IT must be pretty specific, such as Ogres, Frost Giants, Vampires, Worshippers of the "Forest Burners", etc... This allows you to add your bonus to all SIEGE checks against them, including attack maneuvers, AND add your level to the Damage if they didn't qualify for your marauder before. CK approval, of course.</p><p></p><p>Druids:</p><p>They can go one of two paths, animal or elemental. Either path gains the ability to become a Treant at 9th level. At 6th level you choose which path you will follow. Animal can choose animal forms to chang into. Elementalists choose one fo the 4 elementals, earth, air, fire, and water. One form at 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th level, and you get the Treant form too. So by 9th level a Druid will be able to assume each elemental form and a Treant form, or 4 animal forms and a treant form.</p><p></p><p>Your HD and HP will be the same in your animal and elemental form. In animal/elemental form your BtH will equal your HD, and you gain the movement and special defenses of the animal/elemental form you have. Your damage and attacks are the same as the Animal/Elemental form as well.</p><p></p><p>Animal choices are fixed, but can be changed via a 3 day ritual cleansing and rededication to a new "totem".</p><p></p><p>At 12th level you can assume each chosen form 2/day. It becomes 3/day at 18th.</p><p></p><p>Paladins:</p><p>When they gain the Smite Evil ability they can use it once per day per level. OR they can choose to have "religious enemy" under the same rules as the Ranger's "enemy". Then choose a new one every two levels, like the Ranger does. They can only do one or the other, not both Smite and Religious Enemy. To clarify "enemy" choice, as a Paladin I allow it to also add +2 to Damage, and you can track them as well. However to explain why you can Track them and nothing else we will call it a divine power that acts like a very specific "Locate Object/Person" spell that lasts while there is a physical trail that could be followed by a Ranger.</p><p></p><p>Assassins and Thieves:</p><p></p><p>Your BtH progresses as lvl - 2, so your BtH is 0 at first and second level, but increases by one every level thereafter.</p><p>Assassins can make a SIEGE check to do their death attack in one round. The check is TN 12 + level/HD of the target.</p><p>Poison Harvesting: Is a CL 3 for every Type/rank of the poison to be harvested. So CL 3 for Type 1, maxing out at CL 18 for type 6. These will be the default CL's for successfully distilling them as well. Failed rolls mean you accidentally poison yourself and must make the appropriate saves. Recipe's still give the +10 bonus, but such recipe's can only be made by Alchemists or Priests of a god of poisoning. The CL for making such a recipe is 10+2x Poison type/rank, so will range from CL 12 to 22.</p><p></p><p>Thieves can make Type 1 to type 3 poisons as the Assassin, after that they can still make Type 4 and stronger poisons, but no longer add their level, but can use recipes to aid them. Thieves do need to make DEX checks to apply poisons to weapons, etc...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Wizards:</p><p>SIEGE checks can be used to alter spells being cast. A SIEGE check can be made to change the energy type of a spell. For example, to change a fireball to a electric ball, ice ball, etc... you make a TN 12 check + your level to beat a CL = to the level of the spell. So to change the fireball to ice would be a CL 3, so beat TN 15.</p><p></p><p>Similar checks can be done to maximize damage, CL spell level +3</p><p></p><p>To double range, CL spell level +3</p><p></p><p>To increase number of targets effected, CL spell level +3 per additional target (example spell, Charm Person to effect two people instead of one)</p><p></p><p>Failure, in all cases, loses you the spell. Roll a natural 1 and pray for survival if it causes damage.</p><p></p><p>SPELL CASTERS:</p><p>A new class ability for ALL spell casters, except Paladins.</p><p></p><p>Divine/Arcane blasts. These are a pure energy attack that any spell caster can use every other round as long as they do not cast any spells on the round in between. Yes, this means all day long. This is because that round is a recharge/gather the power round. This attack requires a "To hit" roll versus the targets AC, but the casters BtH for purposes of this attack is equal to their level and its modified by their DEX. Damage is 1d4 per level of the caster and requires a "item" as the component for this ability. It costs 20 GP per dice of damage. Typically a cleric uses their Holy Symbol and Arcane Casters most frequently make a wand.</p><p></p><p>As usual, I do allow a SIEGE check to cast this every round, it will be CON based, and failed checks will cost a temporary loss of one CON point to simulate the exhaustive nature of wasting the energy as well as gathering it so quickly. The CL will equal the amount of dice you want to do for damage, and the base TN will always be 12, since this is now a "Class Ability" for all spell casters.</p><p></p><p>Lost CON is regained at 1 point per hour of rest, or from a Lesser Restoration.</p><p></p><p>SIEGE Checks:</p><p></p><p>As you probably guessed, I allow SIEGE checks to be used for a lot of things other than skills. They can be used by fighters to try and get extra attacks, to get an extra attack when you take an opponent down, to transfer points from your BtH to your damage roll, if you think of it, ask me if you can do it. If you have played 3E many of their feats are good ideas for SIEGE checks.</p><p></p><p>IMPORTANT: If you successfully use a SIEGE check frequently enough to perform a specific kind of action I will eventually, when I decide to do so, award it as a "signature move". This will mean that as long as your opponent is no more than 3 levels higher than you, or lower, you will not need to perform a SIEGE check to do the "signature move". You can have as many "signature moves" as I decide to award you with.</p><p></p><p>***I also allow all class abilities to be treated as if you have the relevant attribute as a Prime. </p><p></p><p>These are cut out of my full house rules document, so may read choppy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treebore, post: 5375467, member: 10177"] Bland? Maybe you should try some of my house rules to spice it up, looks like a lot, but in play it hardly slows down play: CLASSES: Fighters: They get to use their BtH to make combat related SIEGE checks, plus their specialization bonuses when using that weapon. All other classes use just their BtH. Fighters can also learn to master (specialize) a new weapon every 3 levels. So at 4th, 7th, 10th, and so on they can master a new weapon. They only get the +1 to hit and damage. These additional weapons never increase to +2 like your first weapon does. Unless you use one of your additional "mastery's" to do so. So if you want to be +2 with the bow, you can use your 4th and 7th level mastery to do so. To be clear, the 7th level bonus can only be used to up your fist chosen weapon to +2, or you keep it at +1 and chose a different weapon to have a +1. You do not increase your first weapon to +2 and pick an additional weapon to +1, you do not get both. Combat Dominance is now "Mass Combat Dominance". They get multiple attacks per round whenever the Fighter is taking on 3 or more opponents at one time. Irregardless of HD. 1 attack per opponent, this replaces any other attacks. Edit: Beginning of nocking two arrows rules: 1d20+12 to knock two arrows then two attacks at -6 1d20+9 to knock two arrows then two attacks at -9 Check 1d20+12 for extra attack 1d20+6 to knock two arrows then two attacks at -12 Clerics: Clerics can do SIEGE checks similar to Wizards. Clerics can spontaneously convert spells to damage healing spells (IE restore HP's) Clerics get to add their level to damage healing spells, which increases the amount healed up to the maximum. For example Cure Light cast by a 5th level Cleric rolls 1d8+5 up to a maximum of 8, not 13. Rangers: Get to choose an enemy at 6th level and every other level thereafter. IT must be pretty specific, such as Ogres, Frost Giants, Vampires, Worshippers of the "Forest Burners", etc... This allows you to add your bonus to all SIEGE checks against them, including attack maneuvers, AND add your level to the Damage if they didn't qualify for your marauder before. CK approval, of course. Druids: They can go one of two paths, animal or elemental. Either path gains the ability to become a Treant at 9th level. At 6th level you choose which path you will follow. Animal can choose animal forms to chang into. Elementalists choose one fo the 4 elementals, earth, air, fire, and water. One form at 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th level, and you get the Treant form too. So by 9th level a Druid will be able to assume each elemental form and a Treant form, or 4 animal forms and a treant form. Your HD and HP will be the same in your animal and elemental form. In animal/elemental form your BtH will equal your HD, and you gain the movement and special defenses of the animal/elemental form you have. Your damage and attacks are the same as the Animal/Elemental form as well. Animal choices are fixed, but can be changed via a 3 day ritual cleansing and rededication to a new "totem". At 12th level you can assume each chosen form 2/day. It becomes 3/day at 18th. Paladins: When they gain the Smite Evil ability they can use it once per day per level. OR they can choose to have "religious enemy" under the same rules as the Ranger's "enemy". Then choose a new one every two levels, like the Ranger does. They can only do one or the other, not both Smite and Religious Enemy. To clarify "enemy" choice, as a Paladin I allow it to also add +2 to Damage, and you can track them as well. However to explain why you can Track them and nothing else we will call it a divine power that acts like a very specific "Locate Object/Person" spell that lasts while there is a physical trail that could be followed by a Ranger. Assassins and Thieves: Your BtH progresses as lvl - 2, so your BtH is 0 at first and second level, but increases by one every level thereafter. Assassins can make a SIEGE check to do their death attack in one round. The check is TN 12 + level/HD of the target. Poison Harvesting: Is a CL 3 for every Type/rank of the poison to be harvested. So CL 3 for Type 1, maxing out at CL 18 for type 6. These will be the default CL's for successfully distilling them as well. Failed rolls mean you accidentally poison yourself and must make the appropriate saves. Recipe's still give the +10 bonus, but such recipe's can only be made by Alchemists or Priests of a god of poisoning. The CL for making such a recipe is 10+2x Poison type/rank, so will range from CL 12 to 22. Thieves can make Type 1 to type 3 poisons as the Assassin, after that they can still make Type 4 and stronger poisons, but no longer add their level, but can use recipes to aid them. Thieves do need to make DEX checks to apply poisons to weapons, etc... Wizards: SIEGE checks can be used to alter spells being cast. A SIEGE check can be made to change the energy type of a spell. For example, to change a fireball to a electric ball, ice ball, etc... you make a TN 12 check + your level to beat a CL = to the level of the spell. So to change the fireball to ice would be a CL 3, so beat TN 15. Similar checks can be done to maximize damage, CL spell level +3 To double range, CL spell level +3 To increase number of targets effected, CL spell level +3 per additional target (example spell, Charm Person to effect two people instead of one) Failure, in all cases, loses you the spell. Roll a natural 1 and pray for survival if it causes damage. SPELL CASTERS: A new class ability for ALL spell casters, except Paladins. Divine/Arcane blasts. These are a pure energy attack that any spell caster can use every other round as long as they do not cast any spells on the round in between. Yes, this means all day long. This is because that round is a recharge/gather the power round. This attack requires a "To hit" roll versus the targets AC, but the casters BtH for purposes of this attack is equal to their level and its modified by their DEX. Damage is 1d4 per level of the caster and requires a "item" as the component for this ability. It costs 20 GP per dice of damage. Typically a cleric uses their Holy Symbol and Arcane Casters most frequently make a wand. As usual, I do allow a SIEGE check to cast this every round, it will be CON based, and failed checks will cost a temporary loss of one CON point to simulate the exhaustive nature of wasting the energy as well as gathering it so quickly. The CL will equal the amount of dice you want to do for damage, and the base TN will always be 12, since this is now a "Class Ability" for all spell casters. Lost CON is regained at 1 point per hour of rest, or from a Lesser Restoration. SIEGE Checks: As you probably guessed, I allow SIEGE checks to be used for a lot of things other than skills. They can be used by fighters to try and get extra attacks, to get an extra attack when you take an opponent down, to transfer points from your BtH to your damage roll, if you think of it, ask me if you can do it. If you have played 3E many of their feats are good ideas for SIEGE checks. IMPORTANT: If you successfully use a SIEGE check frequently enough to perform a specific kind of action I will eventually, when I decide to do so, award it as a "signature move". This will mean that as long as your opponent is no more than 3 levels higher than you, or lower, you will not need to perform a SIEGE check to do the "signature move". You can have as many "signature moves" as I decide to award you with. ***I also allow all class abilities to be treated as if you have the relevant attribute as a Prime. These are cut out of my full house rules document, so may read choppy. [/QUOTE]
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