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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ace" data-source="post: 652378" data-attributes="member: 944">From what I understand of Valorea it is not a regular D&D worldThat sounds odd but what SHARK has done is introduce two big new assumptions into the game #1 There are a lot of guys 10th level and up, enough to field armies of them in fact. Epic level charcters are not uncommon #2 There are many counter measures to magic out there that do not exist in regular D&D. In fact the regular system doesn't even imply that these exist. Its a valid handwave but its still a handwaveNeither of these assumptions are supported in anything published (well Epic Level Handbook, maybe)This makes SHARKS game a lot more Melee and army  centric than a game run with core assumptions in mindI have played in games like this where a 1st level spell (minor personal ward) would stop one spell of any level. The assumptions used in that game and the structure of it were different than in most camapigns. I didn't care for it personally  but YMMVIf we are going to criticize SHARKS world effectively we need to keep in mind that he is playing a somewhat different game than we areI am not sure what all of SHARKS assumptions are but Just to add grist to the mill here are mine #1  Clerics are not allowed to fight in secular wars except on a rare occasions. Use a commune spell before wading in because violating this rule means you get no spells until you attone#2 The average level of a commoner/freeman/expert is 3. Warriors (the bulk of the army) are about 3rd level. PC classes are higher level, the tyoical mage is 5th-7th. Epic level charcters  are very rare There are about 30-40 in an area the size of Eurasia. #2 Magic items don't wear out unless theyare charged items. This is implied in the general indestructability of magic weapons but I assume it applies to all magic items. If I build a cure light wounds at will glove (2000GP) it will be around for a long time. If other people build CLW gloves (say kingdom officials) pretty soon there will be many many CLW gloves#3 Power Components not XP#4 Anyone with a 10 Int can cast wizard spells. Anyone with a 10 Wis who takes the vows can cast cleric spells. This means that given training a full 3rd of the population can learn to cast Fireball (Int 12 is 1/3 of amount +1 point at L4 level up) Most people won't live by the vows of a cleric or druid but a lot of people will study wizard magic. Psions,  Bards  and Sorcerers require the right lineage and those classes are not for everyone#5 Offense is 2x-3x defense. There are a few more defense spells than exist in the book but they are no way as versitile or powerfull as offensive spells#6 Anti Aging magic is rare. The lack of challenges suitable for mid level types in everyday life means that there are few characters above 10th level. BY that time a person is in their 70's and near the end of their lifespan#7 90% of everyone is humanAs you can tell my game isn't quite regular D&D either.  I will levae you all  to imagine what the world is like</blockquote>

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