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<blockquote data-quote="Wolv0rine" data-source="post: 2753936" data-attributes="member: 9045"><p>This is one problem I see in almost all discussions of Paladins. The problem here is that when thinking of Diety/worshipper relations, everyone wants to treat it like christianty. King Arthur's knights had a very mideval christian code, but that doesn't mean that every paladin must or even <em>should</em> have a similar code.</p><p></p><p>Just to pull the easiest example; Thor would not want a humble paladin. Humility isn't really a big virtue in that sort of pantheon. You don't go down on bended knee and pray like some sort of Gorean slave to Thor, that's no way to get into Valhalla. You prove your worth by deed and mutter a prayer when you think it'd be a good idea.</p><p></p><p>That's just the easiest example to use, though. I'm not saying any of the paladin code arguements are wrong, I'm just (again) pointing out that no one paladin code is good for every paladin, and that there is no Unified Paladin Code or Ideal that can be applied to every paladin, because the outlooks and ideals desired by different gods are pretty different.</p><p></p><p>It's like the arguement that a world-weary, hard-drinking paladin who's on a first-name basis with the local Madam and greeted by name by her girls when he invariably walks in must be stripped of his paladinhood. The arguement, when applied with a broad, all-encompassing brush, is garbage. If the paladin is the servant of his god(s), then his code is also dependant on his god(s). And if the paladin is simply the servant of the ideal of Lawful-Good, then I'd personally rather see a paladin code that focuses on Lawful Good instead of some kind of chaste flawless paragon of all victorian virtues figure.</p><p></p><p>But, that's just me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wolv0rine, post: 2753936, member: 9045"] This is one problem I see in almost all discussions of Paladins. The problem here is that when thinking of Diety/worshipper relations, everyone wants to treat it like christianty. King Arthur's knights had a very mideval christian code, but that doesn't mean that every paladin must or even [i]should[/i] have a similar code. Just to pull the easiest example; Thor would not want a humble paladin. Humility isn't really a big virtue in that sort of pantheon. You don't go down on bended knee and pray like some sort of Gorean slave to Thor, that's no way to get into Valhalla. You prove your worth by deed and mutter a prayer when you think it'd be a good idea. That's just the easiest example to use, though. I'm not saying any of the paladin code arguements are wrong, I'm just (again) pointing out that no one paladin code is good for every paladin, and that there is no Unified Paladin Code or Ideal that can be applied to every paladin, because the outlooks and ideals desired by different gods are pretty different. It's like the arguement that a world-weary, hard-drinking paladin who's on a first-name basis with the local Madam and greeted by name by her girls when he invariably walks in must be stripped of his paladinhood. The arguement, when applied with a broad, all-encompassing brush, is garbage. If the paladin is the servant of his god(s), then his code is also dependant on his god(s). And if the paladin is simply the servant of the ideal of Lawful-Good, then I'd personally rather see a paladin code that focuses on Lawful Good instead of some kind of chaste flawless paragon of all victorian virtues figure. But, that's just me. [/QUOTE]
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