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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Markn" data-source="post: 4965474" data-attributes="member: 21827">So if I follow you, you are saying that non magical shields are hand items, even though they are strapped to your arm and, in the case of light shields, don't require the hand to use it since it can perform other tasks.  Logically, that makes the most sense, but they sure don't make it very clear as per the PHB:As with armor, you need the proper shield proficiency to use a shield effectively. When you use a shield, you strap it to an arm and sometimes use the hand on that arm—your shield arm and shield hand. Shields granta shield bonus that you add to your AC and to your Reflex defense. If you’re not proficient with a shield, you don’t gain the shield bonus to your AC or Reflex defense.Light Shield: You need to use your shield hand to wield a light shield properly. You can still use that hand to hold another item, to climb, or the like.  However, you can’t use your shield hand to make attacks.  Heavy Shield: When you use a heavy shield, you gain a greater bonus to your AC and Reflex defense, but you can’t use your shield hand for any other task. I'm having trouble following what your saying exactly here.  Can you clarify this a bit?Ultimately, the whole shield thing is wierd because one naturally makes the assumption that shields are in your hand but actually fill the arm slot for magic items.  Its not an intuitive leap and its further muddied by two different types of shields.</blockquote>

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