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<blockquote data-quote="CanadienneBacon" data-source="post: 6686662" data-attributes="member: 11146">[ooc]OK, since the water is not rough, it sounds like 5e does not prescribe an Athletics check (I'm surprised).&nbsp; We'll just roll with difficult terrain and no Athletics check to swim.&nbsp; My concern as DM, however, is that Fulgrim can't touch the bottom.&nbsp; In scale male, it's not unreasonable to sink in water.&nbsp; This might matter more in a few minutes (heh, if you're upset with me now, hold on tight because it's about to get worse), but for now let's just get Fulgrim to the rock ledge.&nbsp; Since you ask, the merit of treading water is that a party member with rope might be able to throw a rope down and haul out Fulgrim.&nbsp; This won't be nearly as easy if Fulgrim swims to the rock ledge.&nbsp; You ask about Fulgrim's situation.&nbsp; The trapdoor is 15' overhead.&nbsp; Fulgrim fell 15' from the floor of the sarcophagus room, then landed in water.&nbsp; The five foot square he landed in is directly beneath the trapdoor.&nbsp; You're in a little 5' &quot;square&quot; of water of indeterminate depth with a smooth wall to the west just inches away, and a rocky wall to the north and south (both also just inches away).&nbsp; To your immediate east, the cavern opens up into an underground reservoir with natural stone walls and water of an indeterminate depth.&nbsp; There is a rock ledge 20' away, on a diagonal to the northeast from your present position.&nbsp; I'll map the cavern Monday morning and will post the map to clarify what I mean.&nbsp; For now, I need to hop off and get to bed.&nbsp; More later, and thanks for your patience.&nbsp; You've been stellar.[/ooc]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CanadienneBacon, post: 6686662, member: 11146"] [ooc]OK, since the water is not rough, it sounds like 5e does not prescribe an Athletics check (I'm surprised). We'll just roll with difficult terrain and no Athletics check to swim. My concern as DM, however, is that Fulgrim can't touch the bottom. In scale male, it's not unreasonable to sink in water. This might matter more in a few minutes (heh, if you're upset with me now, hold on tight because it's about to get worse), but for now let's just get Fulgrim to the rock ledge. Since you ask, the merit of treading water is that a party member with rope might be able to throw a rope down and haul out Fulgrim. This won't be nearly as easy if Fulgrim swims to the rock ledge. You ask about Fulgrim's situation. The trapdoor is 15' overhead. Fulgrim fell 15' from the floor of the sarcophagus room, then landed in water. The five foot square he landed in is directly beneath the trapdoor. You're in a little 5' "square" of water of indeterminate depth with a smooth wall to the west just inches away, and a rocky wall to the north and south (both also just inches away). To your immediate east, the cavern opens up into an underground reservoir with natural stone walls and water of an indeterminate depth. There is a rock ledge 20' away, on a diagonal to the northeast from your present position. I'll map the cavern Monday morning and will post the map to clarify what I mean. For now, I need to hop off and get to bed. More later, and thanks for your patience. You've been stellar.[/ooc] [/QUOTE]

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