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<blockquote data-quote="Smeazel" data-source="post: 5596525" data-attributes="member: 44896"><p>This is probably a stupid question, but what is the legal status of using a converted monster from the CC in a (third-party) Pathfinder-compatible product? I searched through the forum and couldn't find a definitive answer; the closest I could find was <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-monster-talk/184304-creature-catalog-ogc.html" target="_blank">this thread</a>, but the only answer it gave was "Maybe the license will clarify matters." Which... it doesn't, completely.</p><p></p><p>(I wasn't sure, incidentally, if I should have posted in that thread rather than creating a new thread... but I decided a new thread was probably preferable to necromancing a thread that was four and a half years old. Apologies if I made the wrong decision.)</p><p></p><p><a href="http://creaturecatalog.enworld.org/converted/license.php" target="_blank">The license</a> <em>does</em> specifically mention the monster I want to use, if that helps (or hurts). But I'm not sure exactly what to make of the disclaimer at the top of the license that "All original sources and original monsters are the property of Wizards of the Coast, Inc. Use of these copyrights on this website should not be inferred as a challenge to their copyrights." I <em>think</em> this disclaimer is just clarifying that the 1E/2E sourcebook the monster originally appeared in is still not considered Open Content, and nor is the monster <em>as it was originally printed</em> in this source, but that the converted monster is Open Content and fair game... but I'm not completely sure I'm interpreting this right.</p><p></p><p>I guess for the particular monster I'm interested in at the moment it's not <em>that</em> big a deal, because the monster in question actually is mythological in origin, and I can get away with just mentioning its name and other details about it that come from mythology and aren't original to its D&D incarnation. Still, I'd like to know if the conversions are OGC for several reasons... for one, because, even though the monster <em>is</em> mythological in origin, it's not at all well known, and I'd rather not have to try to explain "No, it's from Malaysian mythology! Really!" if challenged on this point; for another, because if it's OGC then I'm not limited to only mentioning details that come from the original mythological source and can also use facts specific to the D&D version of the monster, and third, and maybe most important of all, for future reference in case there's another monster I decide I want to use later that <em>doesn't</em> have mythological roots (like maybe the aartuk or the galltrit).</p><p></p><p>So... anyway, yeah, the main question is: Converted monsters from the Creature Catalogue: Okay to use in an OGL product released under the Pathfinder Compatibility License, or not? (And if yes, does this go only for creatures specifically mentioned in the license? I'd assume that even if the answer to the first question is yes, the answer to the second is... well, also yes... but I figured I may as well ask.)</p><p></p><p>Thanks in advance for any reply!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Smeazel, post: 5596525, member: 44896"] This is probably a stupid question, but what is the legal status of using a converted monster from the CC in a (third-party) Pathfinder-compatible product? I searched through the forum and couldn't find a definitive answer; the closest I could find was [URL=http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-monster-talk/184304-creature-catalog-ogc.html]this thread[/URL], but the only answer it gave was "Maybe the license will clarify matters." Which... it doesn't, completely. (I wasn't sure, incidentally, if I should have posted in that thread rather than creating a new thread... but I decided a new thread was probably preferable to necromancing a thread that was four and a half years old. Apologies if I made the wrong decision.) [URL=http://creaturecatalog.enworld.org/converted/license.php]The license[/URL] [i]does[/i] specifically mention the monster I want to use, if that helps (or hurts). But I'm not sure exactly what to make of the disclaimer at the top of the license that "All original sources and original monsters are the property of Wizards of the Coast, Inc. Use of these copyrights on this website should not be inferred as a challenge to their copyrights." I [i]think[/i] this disclaimer is just clarifying that the 1E/2E sourcebook the monster originally appeared in is still not considered Open Content, and nor is the monster [i]as it was originally printed[/i] in this source, but that the converted monster is Open Content and fair game... but I'm not completely sure I'm interpreting this right. I guess for the particular monster I'm interested in at the moment it's not [i]that[/i] big a deal, because the monster in question actually is mythological in origin, and I can get away with just mentioning its name and other details about it that come from mythology and aren't original to its D&D incarnation. Still, I'd like to know if the conversions are OGC for several reasons... for one, because, even though the monster [i]is[/i] mythological in origin, it's not at all well known, and I'd rather not have to try to explain "No, it's from Malaysian mythology! Really!" if challenged on this point; for another, because if it's OGC then I'm not limited to only mentioning details that come from the original mythological source and can also use facts specific to the D&D version of the monster, and third, and maybe most important of all, for future reference in case there's another monster I decide I want to use later that [i]doesn't[/i] have mythological roots (like maybe the aartuk or the galltrit). So... anyway, yeah, the main question is: Converted monsters from the Creature Catalogue: Okay to use in an OGL product released under the Pathfinder Compatibility License, or not? (And if yes, does this go only for creatures specifically mentioned in the license? I'd assume that even if the answer to the first question is yes, the answer to the second is... well, also yes... but I figured I may as well ask.) Thanks in advance for any reply! [/QUOTE]
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