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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 2386996" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>True, but consider the prerequisites of the Divine Crusader and the benefits. Divine Crusaders require a +7 BAB and get a number of combat centric abilities like weapon specialization.</p><p></p><p>So, the earliest you can get 9th level spells is 16th level and even then you need a 28 charisma. So, let's speculate a worst case scenario for power: someone manages to get three domains (perhaps as a Divine Crusader/Radiant Servant/Contemplative of Pelor). As a 16th level character, they have up to 9th level spells spontaneously castable from 3 domains. That's good, but a wizard or cleric could do nearly as much by just preparing the same spell lots and lots of times. And they'd have more flexibility. By 17th level, the wizard or cleric will be better casters than the Divine Crusader (doubly so since they'll have a good caster level). And in order to get the multiple domains, it's likely that the Divine Crusader has nerfed his combat ability.</p><p>I would think the best way to take advantage of the Divine Crusader would be to use a 1/1 BAB, nearly 1/1 casting prestige class and be a fighter with more spells than you'd expect. But even there, I can't see it being more than on a par with the Fighter/Cleric/Prestige Paladin/Lion of Talisied (or whatever that BoED p-class is) buids that show up on the WotC character optimization boards.</p><p></p><p>Now, I haven't looked into monsters much. Divine Crusader probably breaks like a grade-school balsa wood bridge if you start applying it to Erynies blackguards of Hextor, but for PCs, I don't see a problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 2386996, member: 3146"] True, but consider the prerequisites of the Divine Crusader and the benefits. Divine Crusaders require a +7 BAB and get a number of combat centric abilities like weapon specialization. So, the earliest you can get 9th level spells is 16th level and even then you need a 28 charisma. So, let's speculate a worst case scenario for power: someone manages to get three domains (perhaps as a Divine Crusader/Radiant Servant/Contemplative of Pelor). As a 16th level character, they have up to 9th level spells spontaneously castable from 3 domains. That's good, but a wizard or cleric could do nearly as much by just preparing the same spell lots and lots of times. And they'd have more flexibility. By 17th level, the wizard or cleric will be better casters than the Divine Crusader (doubly so since they'll have a good caster level). And in order to get the multiple domains, it's likely that the Divine Crusader has nerfed his combat ability. I would think the best way to take advantage of the Divine Crusader would be to use a 1/1 BAB, nearly 1/1 casting prestige class and be a fighter with more spells than you'd expect. But even there, I can't see it being more than on a par with the Fighter/Cleric/Prestige Paladin/Lion of Talisied (or whatever that BoED p-class is) buids that show up on the WotC character optimization boards. Now, I haven't looked into monsters much. Divine Crusader probably breaks like a grade-school balsa wood bridge if you start applying it to Erynies blackguards of Hextor, but for PCs, I don't see a problem. [/QUOTE]
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