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<blockquote data-quote="Silveras" data-source="post: 1590379" data-attributes="member: 6271"><p>The revised Persistent Spell requires that the spell be Personal or fixed range, and it cannot be Instantaneous or "until discharged", so that does block the Persistent Vigor. Nope you can't give yourself perpetual Greater/{normal}/Lesser Vigor. </p><p></p><p>Of course, Mass Lesser Vigor and Vigorous Circle are a) fixed range, b) non-Instantaneous, and c) not discharged. They <em>are</em> eligible for Persistent Spell (and Mass Lesser Vigor would "only" need a 9th level slot). 1 9th level spell slot to give up to 1 creature/level fast healing 1 all day ? Ok. </p><p></p><p>Of course, then there's Divine Metamagic. Pay off the increased slot cost with Turn Undead uses, instead. You'd need a nice, high Charisma and/or Extra Turning + Divine Metamagic + Extend Spell + Persistent Spell, but a human character *could* do it at 6th level (I think). </p><p></p><p>In addition to the e-mails for errata I have been sending to WotC, I sent a version of this one into the Sage. Basically, I was asking if the built-in limit of 15/25/40 rounds would "trump" the use of Extend Spell (and hopefully, by extension, Persistent Spell).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silveras, post: 1590379, member: 6271"] The revised Persistent Spell requires that the spell be Personal or fixed range, and it cannot be Instantaneous or "until discharged", so that does block the Persistent Vigor. Nope you can't give yourself perpetual Greater/{normal}/Lesser Vigor. Of course, Mass Lesser Vigor and Vigorous Circle are a) fixed range, b) non-Instantaneous, and c) not discharged. They [I]are[/I] eligible for Persistent Spell (and Mass Lesser Vigor would "only" need a 9th level slot). 1 9th level spell slot to give up to 1 creature/level fast healing 1 all day ? Ok. Of course, then there's Divine Metamagic. Pay off the increased slot cost with Turn Undead uses, instead. You'd need a nice, high Charisma and/or Extra Turning + Divine Metamagic + Extend Spell + Persistent Spell, but a human character *could* do it at 6th level (I think). In addition to the e-mails for errata I have been sending to WotC, I sent a version of this one into the Sage. Basically, I was asking if the built-in limit of 15/25/40 rounds would "trump" the use of Extend Spell (and hopefully, by extension, Persistent Spell). [/QUOTE]
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