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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8293614" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>You normalize them by not differentiating them. The game shoudl bee a safe space, not a place where people have to put up with the same stereotypes faced IRL.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No. This is exactly my point! There is no heterosexuality or homosexuality in that as you have described it. The first old lady could be heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual or asexual. Same with the second. That you described them as a lady implys they are a woman but either of them could also be a cisgender woman, a transgender woman or a genderfluid woman.</p><p></p><p>Why do you have too say, imply or infer that the second old lady is a Lesbian? That is and would be irrelevant to the story. Why is sexual preference relevant to either of these?</p><p></p><p>Leave it as it is and go rescue the old lady's wife from the ogre without worrying about the preference or identity of either woman (or for that matter the Orge).</p><p></p><p></p><p>I reject the notion that any characters should even have a defined sexuality. There is no such thing (and should be no such thing) as playing a character of a "different sexuality" than you because sexuality is not relevant to anything at all that can happen in most games. The only time it becomes relevant is when you make it relevant through stereotypes. </p><p></p><p>If I am playing a heteroexual male character are you going to tell me as DM that I can't "fade to black" with an NPC man if I am a "heterosexual man". Are you going to tell me I should not wear a skirt if I am a cisgendered man?</p><p></p><p>Regarding gender; in general stereotypes surrounding gender do not come in games I have played in the last 15 years or so (they admittedly did before then). The difference is gender itself is relevant to the game and to the English language. Being a woman or a man is relevant to the story, but whether said person is cis or trans is not. Bringing in cis/trans as a further subdivision of specific genders only introduces stereotypes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8293614, member: 7030563"] You normalize them by not differentiating them. The game shoudl bee a safe space, not a place where people have to put up with the same stereotypes faced IRL. No. This is exactly my point! There is no heterosexuality or homosexuality in that as you have described it. The first old lady could be heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual or asexual. Same with the second. That you described them as a lady implys they are a woman but either of them could also be a cisgender woman, a transgender woman or a genderfluid woman. Why do you have too say, imply or infer that the second old lady is a Lesbian? That is and would be irrelevant to the story. Why is sexual preference relevant to either of these? Leave it as it is and go rescue the old lady's wife from the ogre without worrying about the preference or identity of either woman (or for that matter the Orge). I reject the notion that any characters should even have a defined sexuality. There is no such thing (and should be no such thing) as playing a character of a "different sexuality" than you because sexuality is not relevant to anything at all that can happen in most games. The only time it becomes relevant is when you make it relevant through stereotypes. If I am playing a heteroexual male character are you going to tell me as DM that I can't "fade to black" with an NPC man if I am a "heterosexual man". Are you going to tell me I should not wear a skirt if I am a cisgendered man? Regarding gender; in general stereotypes surrounding gender do not come in games I have played in the last 15 years or so (they admittedly did before then). The difference is gender itself is relevant to the game and to the English language. Being a woman or a man is relevant to the story, but whether said person is cis or trans is not. Bringing in cis/trans as a further subdivision of specific genders only introduces stereotypes. [/QUOTE]
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