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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9477596" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>You need to check your basics.</p><p></p><p>This is a deceptive edit based on a sentence fragment and ignoring the role of punctuation. At the most trivial you are wrong that you have to cast the spell on your turn; Hellish Rebuke is a spell you cast on someone else's turn but gets the extra damage. And gets it even if you cast a different fire spells on your turn.</p><p></p><p>What the text actually says if you include the entire clause is "<em>Once per turn, when a spell you cast deals Radiant or Fire damage, ...</em>" The trigger is not casting the spell. It's doing fire or radiant damage.</p><p></p><p>Another grammar fail. "A spell you have cast" is in the perfect tense and would therefore by a strict reading only apply after you cast it.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile how do we know your way is wrong? Because if they had intended it to only apply when you cast the spell they would have left the text as "when you cast a spell that deals radiant or fire damage". They could have added the once per turn clause without changing that.</p><p></p><p>Or you require cast to be an irregular verb where the present and the past tense are the same so the same word covers both. Only a prescriptivist would make the claim that you require a specific odd tense - and English isn't a language where prescriptivism holds any sway.</p><p></p><p>Done by who? Because it was as you say never worth it given the cost. And given that it wasn't worth it the idea that they would bother to close that loophole makes no sense.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile the idea that they would put in a buff to a basically almost useless ability while using the English language the way an ordinary native English speaker would makes perfect sense.</p><p></p><p>And just to reiterate "When you cast a spell that deals damage" doesn't have the same subject as "when a spell you cast deals damage".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 9477596, member: 87792"] You need to check your basics. This is a deceptive edit based on a sentence fragment and ignoring the role of punctuation. At the most trivial you are wrong that you have to cast the spell on your turn; Hellish Rebuke is a spell you cast on someone else's turn but gets the extra damage. And gets it even if you cast a different fire spells on your turn. What the text actually says if you include the entire clause is "[I]Once per turn, when a spell you cast deals Radiant or Fire damage, ...[/I]" The trigger is not casting the spell. It's doing fire or radiant damage. Another grammar fail. "A spell you have cast" is in the perfect tense and would therefore by a strict reading only apply after you cast it. Meanwhile how do we know your way is wrong? Because if they had intended it to only apply when you cast the spell they would have left the text as "when you cast a spell that deals radiant or fire damage". They could have added the once per turn clause without changing that. Or you require cast to be an irregular verb where the present and the past tense are the same so the same word covers both. Only a prescriptivist would make the claim that you require a specific odd tense - and English isn't a language where prescriptivism holds any sway. Done by who? Because it was as you say never worth it given the cost. And given that it wasn't worth it the idea that they would bother to close that loophole makes no sense. Meanwhile the idea that they would put in a buff to a basically almost useless ability while using the English language the way an ordinary native English speaker would makes perfect sense. And just to reiterate "When you cast a spell that deals damage" doesn't have the same subject as "when a spell you cast deals damage". [/QUOTE]
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