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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Phlebas" data-source="post: 3956121" data-attributes="member: 23810">All correct and I apologise if I misled - I was referring to scandinavian trade and small scale settlement that pre-dated the viking raids, and although the romans officially pulled out in 410AD, the mainland remained effectively romano-british until the romanised saxon kingdoms in the 7th -8th century so roman influence didn't end suddenly.Also, trade and settlement across the irish sea flourished from pre-roman times up to the modern day. Since Rome was primarily a commercial empire its influence spread beyond the borders of the official empire as it traded far & wide.My main point was that its difficult to seperate out what is purely celtic from all the other influences that went on across the celtic fringe - but as the OP said - he wants a flavour of celtic lore rather than a historically pure analysis so, interesting as this discussion is i'll stop threadjacking and get back to steampunk with kilts</blockquote>