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<blockquote data-quote="Hellefire" data-source="post: 2051632" data-attributes="member: 28129"><p>First a bunch of disclaimers:</p><p>I am new to Ceramic DM. I have about 3 weeks worth of experience, and am compiling information as I go. I don't know what is normal or what is expected. I also know that judges have a hard job, that they have lives, and that quality and fairness in judging is certainly more important than a day here or two. Lastly, I don't want to rub anyone thw wrong way or shoot myself in the foot for next time.</p><p> </p><p>All that being said, someone ranted somewhere about contestants not signing up if they arent going to put the time into it, and I'd like to second that for judges. I know you have a job to do that I wouldn't want to do, and probably couldn't do both clinically correctly and fairly, and I understand it's probably hard to find good judges who people trust and who are willing to sign up for it at all. I know everybody to some degree or other feels the same as I do hitting refresh, and it's certainly faster than a mail-in contest. I have a few suggestions to possibly help some of the strain:</p><p> </p><p>1. Get the organizers/judges together and talk about what is a general time span for judging each round, based on the number of contestants for the round, detail needed and a variable for unexpected circumstances.</p><p> </p><p>2. Post that approximation somewhere. From what I have seen so far it takes 2-12 days from both stories being posted to a judgement being posted. I'd say still give a range, but maybe narrow it down some, for theory and in practice. Post it in the FAQ so newcomers know what to expect. I have more of an idea now, but there will be and should be new contestants.</p><p> </p><p>3. Maybe set two stages to the judgements, as is kind of beeing done now due to time constraints. One is the posting of the decision, the second is the critique. The critique is definitely very valuable and important for the process and for each writer...but as long as it does eventually come, I think the judgement itself should be posted ASAP. It seems that there is a lot of delay over judges putting down their critiques in words and it's much faster to pass on the decision part. Though if the judges use critique as part of their decision-making and this would curtail that part of the process, I would say DON'T do it this way, because fairness and quality is most important.</p><p> </p><p>Hope I don't ruffle any feathers. And maybe I'm just stating things everyone knows, or that is pointless to talk about. I'm not sure, being new <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. But now that the pressure is off and I feel these things from a clinical perspective, as opposed to a waiting, needing to know perspective, I thought I should bring them up. That or maybe I was just too scared to piss off a judge before they finished judging my story <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.</p><p> </p><p>Aaron Blair</p><p>Foren Star</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hellefire, post: 2051632, member: 28129"] First a bunch of disclaimers: I am new to Ceramic DM. I have about 3 weeks worth of experience, and am compiling information as I go. I don't know what is normal or what is expected. I also know that judges have a hard job, that they have lives, and that quality and fairness in judging is certainly more important than a day here or two. Lastly, I don't want to rub anyone thw wrong way or shoot myself in the foot for next time. All that being said, someone ranted somewhere about contestants not signing up if they arent going to put the time into it, and I'd like to second that for judges. I know you have a job to do that I wouldn't want to do, and probably couldn't do both clinically correctly and fairly, and I understand it's probably hard to find good judges who people trust and who are willing to sign up for it at all. I know everybody to some degree or other feels the same as I do hitting refresh, and it's certainly faster than a mail-in contest. I have a few suggestions to possibly help some of the strain: 1. Get the organizers/judges together and talk about what is a general time span for judging each round, based on the number of contestants for the round, detail needed and a variable for unexpected circumstances. 2. Post that approximation somewhere. From what I have seen so far it takes 2-12 days from both stories being posted to a judgement being posted. I'd say still give a range, but maybe narrow it down some, for theory and in practice. Post it in the FAQ so newcomers know what to expect. I have more of an idea now, but there will be and should be new contestants. 3. Maybe set two stages to the judgements, as is kind of beeing done now due to time constraints. One is the posting of the decision, the second is the critique. The critique is definitely very valuable and important for the process and for each writer...but as long as it does eventually come, I think the judgement itself should be posted ASAP. It seems that there is a lot of delay over judges putting down their critiques in words and it's much faster to pass on the decision part. Though if the judges use critique as part of their decision-making and this would curtail that part of the process, I would say DON'T do it this way, because fairness and quality is most important. Hope I don't ruffle any feathers. And maybe I'm just stating things everyone knows, or that is pointless to talk about. I'm not sure, being new :). But now that the pressure is off and I feel these things from a clinical perspective, as opposed to a waiting, needing to know perspective, I thought I should bring them up. That or maybe I was just too scared to piss off a judge before they finished judging my story :). Aaron Blair Foren Star [/QUOTE]
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