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<blockquote data-quote="Turtlejay" data-source="post: 4912409" data-attributes="member: 70267"><p>So since a lot of the solos are named dragons (from modules or whatever) i looked at the generic dragons. Dragonfear stuns which could break the mark. Remeber, solos have AP's:</p><p></p><p> - Black Dragon - With Cloud of Darkness can break line of sight, making it impossible to tell if the Paladin ends adjacent.</p><p></p><p> - Gray Dragon - Basic attack immobilizes and is reach 2, breath weapon immobilizes and pushes.</p><p></p><p> - Green Dragon - Flyby attack, breath weapon slows, luring glare slides.</p><p></p><p> - Purple Dragon - Dominate at will, daze (with possible slide) on breath weapon.</p><p></p><p> - Blue Dragon - Push+Prone at will.</p><p></p><p> - Copper Dragon - Attack+shift at will, flyby attack.</p><p></p><p> - Shadow Dragon - Globes of Darkness break line of sight.</p><p></p><p> - Mirage Dragon - At will has unconscious as possible effect, breath weapon fear effect would break the mark.</p><p></p><p> - Brown Dragon - Can blind at will, block line of sight, and turn into freaking sand.</p><p></p><p> - Aspect of Tiamat - Dominate</p><p></p><p> - White Dragon - Restrain+Stun</p><p></p><p> - Tempest Dragon - Dazing aura, Slide+move at will.</p><p></p><p> - Dracolich - At will Stuns, breath weapon stuns</p><p></p><p>Dragons only make up about 1/2 of the Solos in paragon, for the others:</p><p></p><p>Borrit Crowfinger - Daze+Immobilize</p><p></p><p>Animated Carriage - Push 1+Daze (the bubble!?)</p><p></p><p>Sarshan - At will that can petrify</p><p></p><p></p><p>That is a little more than half of the Solos. There were a few Dragons (like the Gold Dragon) that have not special ability to evade this mark. There were also a few (Blue Dragon) that would probably never get this mark due to their role.</p><p></p><p>Yes, I know that some of those strategies will not get rid of the mark by themselves. But as solo monsters, they also have action points. So. . .yeah. If a Dragon *really* wants to make his mark go away, he could do it by killing the Paladin. That is what I would do, if I were a Dragon. Or an Animate Carriage.</p><p></p><p>This argument/disagreement has gotten kind of rediculous. Yes, I see where you are coming from. In a small number of encounters this power has the potential to own. The problem is that these are the encounters that we most want to matter.</p><p></p><p>Jay</p><p></p><p>ps - I got tired of this exercise. If someone else wants to wade through the solos and compare them, be my guest...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Turtlejay, post: 4912409, member: 70267"] So since a lot of the solos are named dragons (from modules or whatever) i looked at the generic dragons. Dragonfear stuns which could break the mark. Remeber, solos have AP's: - Black Dragon - With Cloud of Darkness can break line of sight, making it impossible to tell if the Paladin ends adjacent. - Gray Dragon - Basic attack immobilizes and is reach 2, breath weapon immobilizes and pushes. - Green Dragon - Flyby attack, breath weapon slows, luring glare slides. - Purple Dragon - Dominate at will, daze (with possible slide) on breath weapon. - Blue Dragon - Push+Prone at will. - Copper Dragon - Attack+shift at will, flyby attack. - Shadow Dragon - Globes of Darkness break line of sight. - Mirage Dragon - At will has unconscious as possible effect, breath weapon fear effect would break the mark. - Brown Dragon - Can blind at will, block line of sight, and turn into freaking sand. - Aspect of Tiamat - Dominate - White Dragon - Restrain+Stun - Tempest Dragon - Dazing aura, Slide+move at will. - Dracolich - At will Stuns, breath weapon stuns Dragons only make up about 1/2 of the Solos in paragon, for the others: Borrit Crowfinger - Daze+Immobilize Animated Carriage - Push 1+Daze (the bubble!?) Sarshan - At will that can petrify That is a little more than half of the Solos. There were a few Dragons (like the Gold Dragon) that have not special ability to evade this mark. There were also a few (Blue Dragon) that would probably never get this mark due to their role. Yes, I know that some of those strategies will not get rid of the mark by themselves. But as solo monsters, they also have action points. So. . .yeah. If a Dragon *really* wants to make his mark go away, he could do it by killing the Paladin. That is what I would do, if I were a Dragon. Or an Animate Carriage. This argument/disagreement has gotten kind of rediculous. Yes, I see where you are coming from. In a small number of encounters this power has the potential to own. The problem is that these are the encounters that we most want to matter. Jay ps - I got tired of this exercise. If someone else wants to wade through the solos and compare them, be my guest... [/QUOTE]
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