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<blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 5376252" data-attributes="member: 58416">CHA actually can be optimized.&nbsp; I honestly believe that the most powerful 3E character I had was a bard.&nbsp; My perform check versus your will save?&nbsp; Yes, please.&nbsp; At epic level I picked up 'Music of The Gods' and was able to brainwash things which were normally immune to my abilities.&nbsp;&nbsp;I think a lot of people view CHA poorly because a lot of people feel that damage is the best way to overcome an opponent.&nbsp; Personally, I feel otherwise.&nbsp; Why bother fighting the big nasty dragon when I can bend his mind to my will and make him my pet?&nbsp;&nbsp;None of this even takes into consideration the most abusable feat in 3E: Leadership.&nbsp; A good CHA score allows you to get more (and stronger) cohorts and followers.&nbsp; Even if they can't come to the dungeon with me, I can still have them do things such as craft items for me; till my land and make money, and various other things.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Argyle King, post: 5376252, member: 58416"] CHA actually can be optimized. I honestly believe that the most powerful 3E character I had was a bard. My perform check versus your will save? Yes, please. At epic level I picked up 'Music of The Gods' and was able to brainwash things which were normally immune to my abilities. I think a lot of people view CHA poorly because a lot of people feel that damage is the best way to overcome an opponent. Personally, I feel otherwise. Why bother fighting the big nasty dragon when I can bend his mind to my will and make him my pet? None of this even takes into consideration the most abusable feat in 3E: Leadership. A good CHA score allows you to get more (and stronger) cohorts and followers. Even if they can't come to the dungeon with me, I can still have them do things such as craft items for me; till my land and make money, and various other things. [/QUOTE]

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