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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JacktheRabbit" data-source="post: 5376864" data-attributes="member: 525">Not really. Diplomacy requires someone to talk to you. If your Charisma is 6 then someone may be so annoyed by your natural personality, body odor, and poor habits, that they either refuse to talk to you or ignore everything you say. Diplomacy needs at least a tiny amount of willingness to communicate for it to even have a chance. Diplomacy also requires some sort of common method of communication between you and target while a high natural charisma can cross even the largest language barrier.The biggest problem with Diplomacy is the player idea that it will work on anyone. That their bard with the 22 in diplomacy can talk their way through anything. Unfortunately not everyone wants to talk or cares to even hear what you have to say.One solution to make Charisma more relevant is to make a small tweak. Make Will saves base off Charisma instead of Wisdom. Will saves is your strength of personality to resist mental assaults in one for or another. Doesnt it make sense that the stat that is supposed to measure the strength of your personality should modify your Will Save? I have known lots of very wise people who are pretty weak willed.</blockquote>