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Message: <blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 3819479" data-attributes="member: 1164">[IMaGel]http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9394/chainbangrm6.gif[/IMaGel] ____________________________Originally posted by seans23So does that mean that there's no reflex save if you intentionally walk through such a barrier?  You still get a reflex save if you intentionally walk through a blade barrier.____________________________Yes it is stupid someone gets to roll a reflex save if they willingly go into a whirling barrier of blades. Thankfully this monster ability has none of that silliness!BTW, the barrier is around the golem, to get into the 7d6 & No save area, you would have to enter or pass through the golem's space. As long as you remain adjacent, you are entitiled to the save.<a href="http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9394/chainbangrm6.gif" target="_blank">http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9394/chainbangrm6.gif</a>TBH, that ability needs to have been worded better for other reasons as well. It is an Extraordinary ability so I'd hope to the gods' the designer intended the ‘chain’ barrier to deal the same type of damage the golem normally does, not magical force blade damage ala the actual blade barrier spell.Also does that field persist for the duration a blade barrier spell would have had? To me, since it is an extraordinary ability, it sounds like the barrier should just be up for a round, and the golem can then take another full round action to keep the barrier up next round. Otherwise even more issues get raised, like “what if the golem starts moving while the chain barrier is going?”</blockquote>

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