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<blockquote data-quote="EOL" data-source="post: 44268" data-attributes="member: 823">Re: My $0.02My personal philisophy is that spell with a meta-magic feat applied should never be more powerful than a spell of equal level.&nbsp; This is primarily a sorcerer issue,&nbsp; because it mitigates if not negates the disadvantage of the limited spell selection.Also the Chain Spell feat cannot be used with Bull's Strength or Cat's Grace, since they have a range of touch.Nor could it be used with fireball or any summon spells.You can chain any spell that specifies a single target and has a range greater than touchChained enervation is a great example of the possibility for abuse.&nbsp; Let's compare a Chained enervation with Energy Drain, the first a seventh level spell and the second a 9th level spell.&nbsp; Both cast by a 20th level caster.&nbsp; In the first case if we take the feat literally and figure an average of 2.5 levels per enevervate then we end up with 52.5 (2.5 *21) total levels drained with enervate and 5 levels drained with Energy Drain.&nbsp; Now I admit that the Drained Levels from Energy Drain are much nastier, but are they 10 TIMES as nasty? (and this ignores the level disparity)Let's assume that drained levels count as damage and so the secondary targets only take 1d2 levels of drain(average 1.5), even in this case we have a 32.5 compared to 5 and this is a 7th level spell as compared to a 9th level spell.Anybody see a problem with this?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EOL, post: 44268, member: 823"] [b]Re: My $0.02[/b] My personal philisophy is that spell with a meta-magic feat applied should never be more powerful than a spell of equal level. This is primarily a sorcerer issue, because it mitigates if not negates the disadvantage of the limited spell selection. Also the Chain Spell feat cannot be used with Bull's Strength or Cat's Grace, since they have a range of touch. Nor could it be used with fireball or any summon spells. [B][I]You can chain any spell that specifies a single target and has a range greater than touch[/I][/B][I][/I] Chained enervation is a great example of the possibility for abuse. Let's compare a Chained enervation with Energy Drain, the first a seventh level spell and the second a 9th level spell. Both cast by a 20th level caster. In the first case if we take the feat literally and figure an average of 2.5 levels per enevervate then we end up with 52.5 (2.5 *21) total levels drained with enervate and 5 levels drained with Energy Drain. Now I admit that the Drained Levels from Energy Drain are much nastier, but are they 10 TIMES as nasty? (and this ignores the level disparity) Let's assume that drained levels count as damage and so the secondary targets only take 1d2 levels of drain(average 1.5), even in this case we have a 32.5 compared to 5 and this is a 7th level spell as compared to a 9th level spell. Anybody see a problem with this? [/QUOTE]

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