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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 6348027" data-attributes="member: 7635">How high is "high" though? I mean, a 15 Str and 17 Cha makes you a good diplomancer who can still fight decently (and wear heavy armor without speed penalty) while an 17 str and 15 cha makes you a good melee combatant with some decent ability with spells and skills. Do you NEED a +5 to Cha powers to be a good paladin? Should you get rewarded for that +5 in combat as well? See, here was the problem I saw with 4e's method: I got my cake and I ate it too. In 5e, if I prioritize Cha over Str, I prioritize social skills, spells, and special abilities (lay hands) over raw combat. In 4e, I didn't have to; I got it both. I was a good diplomat, had awesome healing/smiting/defending powers, and my combat ability suffered NOTHING. (I didn't even suffer for basic attacks: thanks Melee Training!) This lead to very unbalanced characters where I sank everything into Cha (and why would I, except some Wis for riders and maybe Con for Fort and HP) and my Dex/Int/Str could be 8's for all it mattered. (The only pain is on reflex defense).</blockquote>