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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8836014" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>I agree with almost all of this but think the first/second bit falls a bit short. The two are so tightly linked that they may as well be two side of the same unchallenging coin. On the one side 5e works so hard to avoid any hint of <a href="https://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/2498/roleplaying-games/thought-of-the-day-ivory-tower-design" target="_blank">ivory tower design</a> in service of rewarding any merely <em>functional</em> choices that it actually makes any challenge hinging from in combat choices more of a challenge to get wrong to any meaningful degree than to make one seemingly functional choice over another have <em>meaningful</em> impact on the <em>average</em> combat. If by some chance a gm makes it matter that gm just turns over the coin by doing the lifting for 5e as a system to provide a challenge that makes it matter. attrition has been so downplayed & recovery so trivialized that the challenge is immediately wiped clear as nothing but a forgotten illusion that only momentarily appeared tangible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8836014, member: 93670"] I agree with almost all of this but think the first/second bit falls a bit short. The two are so tightly linked that they may as well be two side of the same unchallenging coin. On the one side 5e works so hard to avoid any hint of [url="https://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/2498/roleplaying-games/thought-of-the-day-ivory-tower-design"]ivory tower design[/url] in service of rewarding any merely [i]functional[/i] choices that it actually makes any challenge hinging from in combat choices more of a challenge to get wrong to any meaningful degree than to make one seemingly functional choice over another have [i]meaningful[/i] impact on the [i]average[/i] combat. If by some chance a gm makes it matter that gm just turns over the coin by doing the lifting for 5e as a system to provide a challenge that makes it matter. attrition has been so downplayed & recovery so trivialized that the challenge is immediately wiped clear as nothing but a forgotten illusion that only momentarily appeared tangible. [/QUOTE]
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