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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 2305579" data-attributes="member: 5890"><p>You need to have:</p><p>Are there 20 casting classes? Full casters I mean. Take one of each, and mental stats too low to cast any spells from them. Take one level of war hulk, gained with a scroll of enlarge person (so you suffer the negatives - 0 ranks in all mental skills, but none of the positives). Then spend all your points in mental skills.</p><p></p><p>Only thing is - you've got pretty good saves, and can use any spell-trigger magic item that doesn't need a spellcraft roll, so you're not TOTALLY useless.</p><p></p><p>Our feats will be mostly ones which require things that we could TEMPORARILY gain, but do not currently have. One-shot items of tensers transformation will let us get some EWPs (+1 bab needed). Power attack would be a good one, and so will expertise. That's pretty easily done, but we can STILL use spell trigger items like wands.</p><p></p><p>So, let's take vow of poverty in addition to all those feats that we can't use. Now we can't use any magic item except a potion.</p><p></p><p>There you go - bab 0, no items, no useful feats, no skills. You can be fed a potion, but that's about it.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately your will saves are through the roof, and your fort save is pretty good too... I don't know how to fix that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 2305579, member: 5890"] You need to have: Are there 20 casting classes? Full casters I mean. Take one of each, and mental stats too low to cast any spells from them. Take one level of war hulk, gained with a scroll of enlarge person (so you suffer the negatives - 0 ranks in all mental skills, but none of the positives). Then spend all your points in mental skills. Only thing is - you've got pretty good saves, and can use any spell-trigger magic item that doesn't need a spellcraft roll, so you're not TOTALLY useless. Our feats will be mostly ones which require things that we could TEMPORARILY gain, but do not currently have. One-shot items of tensers transformation will let us get some EWPs (+1 bab needed). Power attack would be a good one, and so will expertise. That's pretty easily done, but we can STILL use spell trigger items like wands. So, let's take vow of poverty in addition to all those feats that we can't use. Now we can't use any magic item except a potion. There you go - bab 0, no items, no useful feats, no skills. You can be fed a potion, but that's about it. Unfortunately your will saves are through the roof, and your fort save is pretty good too... I don't know how to fix that. [/QUOTE]
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