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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 9602327" data-attributes="member: 6701124"><p>Am I right that the 2024 books have almost nothing about CRs? It almost reads like they meant to put more in either the DMG or MM and then didn't, or did I miss something?</p><p></p><p><strong>Player's Handbook</strong></p><p></p><p>Page 363: "Challenge Rating (CR) summarizes the threat a monster poses to a group of four player characters. Compare a monsters CR to the characters' level. If the CR is higher, the monster is likely a danger. If the CR is lower, the monster likely poses little threat. But circumstances and number of player characters can significantly alter how threatening a monster is in actual play. The <em>Dungeon Master's Guide</em> provides guidance to the DM on using CR while planning potential combat encounters. See also "Stat Block".</p><p></p><p>Page 375 - Stat Block: "Challenge Rating summarizes the threat a monster poses and is detailed in the <em>Monster Manual.</em>"</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Monster Manual</strong></p><p></p><p>Page 8: Says CR is defined in the PHB and guidance on using CRs is in the DMG. It then gives a table that matches each CR to an exact XP amount and has a list of Proficiency Bonuses by CR.</p><p></p><p>Page 382-384: Table of monsters by CR</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Dungeon Master's Guide</strong></p><p></p><p>Doesn't appear in index.</p><p></p><p>Pages 56-57 - Creating a Creature: It notes changing ability scores affect various things and can change CR (doesn't say how) and that the various senses don't affect CR.</p><p></p><p>Pages 114-116 - Combat Encounters: The encounter building is all XP budget and doesn't mention CR except it notes to use CR 0 creatures sparingly and has a quick note that including a monster with CR higher than the party's level might one shot characters or have powers the party can't overcome.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 9602327, member: 6701124"] Am I right that the 2024 books have almost nothing about CRs? It almost reads like they meant to put more in either the DMG or MM and then didn't, or did I miss something? [B]Player's Handbook[/B] Page 363: "Challenge Rating (CR) summarizes the threat a monster poses to a group of four player characters. Compare a monsters CR to the characters' level. If the CR is higher, the monster is likely a danger. If the CR is lower, the monster likely poses little threat. But circumstances and number of player characters can significantly alter how threatening a monster is in actual play. The [I]Dungeon Master's Guide[/I] provides guidance to the DM on using CR while planning potential combat encounters. See also "Stat Block". Page 375 - Stat Block: "Challenge Rating summarizes the threat a monster poses and is detailed in the [I]Monster Manual.[/I]" [B]Monster Manual[/B] Page 8: Says CR is defined in the PHB and guidance on using CRs is in the DMG. It then gives a table that matches each CR to an exact XP amount and has a list of Proficiency Bonuses by CR. Page 382-384: Table of monsters by CR [B]Dungeon Master's Guide[/B] Doesn't appear in index. Pages 56-57 - Creating a Creature: It notes changing ability scores affect various things and can change CR (doesn't say how) and that the various senses don't affect CR. Pages 114-116 - Combat Encounters: The encounter building is all XP budget and doesn't mention CR except it notes to use CR 0 creatures sparingly and has a quick note that including a monster with CR higher than the party's level might one shot characters or have powers the party can't overcome. [/QUOTE]
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