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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 3768505" data-attributes="member: 114">A very interesting point.If you consider the Saga system, saves and defence pretty much scale with level directly alongside BAB and other stuff (although force attacks can be much nastier at low level and weaker at high level).This would map very well onto the kind of idea that you are describing here.Having monster level (+/- x) as the base for BAB, AC, saves, casting attacks and so forth - where x varies by monster role - would give you a really nice way of ensuring that monsters of a particular level are likely to be 'viable opponents' for PCs of a given level and a fairly wide spread either side of that level (something that I'm sure I've read one of the designers talking about).Maybe Brutes would get Fort defence 10+level+4, Ref defence 10+level and Will defence 10+level-4, while Dragons would get 10+level+3 across the board or something, for instance.Cheers</blockquote>