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<blockquote data-quote="joethelawyer" data-source="post: 4502499" data-attributes="member: 55764">Quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Originally Posted by joethelawyer <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/242512-challenge-players-not-characters-stats-post4501049.html#post4501049" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/enw/buttons/viewpost.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></a> &nbsp;what our group would do in this situation in our weird 1e/3.0 hybrid that we houseruled would be for the dm to tell the player &quot;you cant just use diplomacy and roll. if it is a speech you want to make, you have to stand up, take on you character's voice and physical bearing and mannerisms, and make the speech to rally the troops. the diplomacy skill, as well as the quality of the speech you give will affect its success. i'm not telling you which will weigh more heavily--the speech you give and your ability to act it out in character or the diplomacy skill score--or what the dc is.&quot;we do it that way because to us that's fun.&nbsp; and i noticed it gets more fun after a few beers in us.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; whenever we get to one of those moments where the conversation or speech mattered, we have to &quot;roleplay it out&quot; which is a phrase we use which means we have to stand up and act in character as if we were on a stage in a play and make the speech, or engage in dialogue.not everyone can life the 500 lb gate or jump a 20 foot pit, and since the basement we play in doesnt have those in stock, it makes it harder to act those things out.&nbsp; but everyone an get up and make a speech to rally the troops or denounce demon princess to her face just before engaging in combat with her.&nbsp; you may make a jackjass of yourself while sayng it, or screw it up, but thats the sort of thing we look forward to so we can bust that guy's balls for the whole week until the next time we play and someone else gets put on the hot seat.thats just the game we like to play.&nbsp; to us its fun.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="joethelawyer, post: 4502499, member: 55764"] Quote: Originally Posted by [B]joethelawyer[/B] [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/242512-challenge-players-not-characters-stats-post4501049.html#post4501049"][IMG]http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/enw/buttons/viewpost.gif[/IMG][/URL] [I]what our group would do in this situation in our weird 1e/3.0 hybrid that we houseruled would be for the dm to tell the player "you cant just use diplomacy and roll. if it is a speech you want to make, you have to stand up, take on you character's voice and physical bearing and mannerisms, and make the speech to rally the troops. the diplomacy skill, as well as the quality of the speech you give will affect its success. i'm not telling you which will weigh more heavily--the speech you give and your ability to act it out in character or the diplomacy skill score--or what the dc is."[/I] we do it that way because to us that's fun. and i noticed it gets more fun after a few beers in us. :) whenever we get to one of those moments where the conversation or speech mattered, we have to "roleplay it out" which is a phrase we use which means we have to stand up and act in character as if we were on a stage in a play and make the speech, or engage in dialogue. not everyone can life the 500 lb gate or jump a 20 foot pit, and since the basement we play in doesnt have those in stock, it makes it harder to act those things out. but everyone an get up and make a speech to rally the troops or denounce demon princess to her face just before engaging in combat with her. you may make a jackjass of yourself while sayng it, or screw it up, but thats the sort of thing we look forward to so we can bust that guy's balls for the whole week until the next time we play and someone else gets put on the hot seat. thats just the game we like to play. to us its fun. [/QUOTE]

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