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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 4505853" data-attributes="member: 42582">I asked upthread what your evidence for this claim is. I'll ask again now - what is your evidence for this claim?I think you are wrong. Skill challenges are included to give robust mechanical support for non-combat encounters of the sort found in RPGs like HeroWars, The Dying Earth, etc (roughly what one might call &quot;contemporary&quot; or &quot;indie&quot; RPGs). My evidence for this is (i) the skill challenge mechanics are very similar to the mechanics in these other games, (ii) the text I quoted upthread from the DMG on how to run a skill challenge resembles to a reasonable degree the rules text found in these other games, and (iii) the designers mentioned the influence of indie games on 4e design.For players who don't like non-combat encounters, the solution is not skill challenges. The solution is not to include those encounters in one's game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 4505853, member: 42582"] I asked upthread what your evidence for this claim is. I'll ask again now - what is your evidence for this claim? I think you are wrong. Skill challenges are included to give robust mechanical support for non-combat encounters of the sort found in RPGs like HeroWars, The Dying Earth, etc (roughly what one might call "contemporary" or "indie" RPGs). My evidence for this is (i) the skill challenge mechanics are very similar to the mechanics in these other games, (ii) the text I quoted upthread from the DMG on how to run a skill challenge resembles to a reasonable degree the rules text found in these other games, and (iii) the designers mentioned the influence of indie games on 4e design. For players who don't like non-combat encounters, the solution is not skill challenges. The solution is [b]not to include those encounters in one's game[/b]. [/QUOTE]

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