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<blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 4508568" data-attributes="member: 3192">I think I see where you're going, but please let me know if I'm missing the point.&nbsp; I think you're saying one can role-play to the GM instead of the modeled reality.&nbsp; Your example is: breaking the 4th wall in order to appeal to the GM while still acting.&nbsp; My objection is: it doesn't matter if the character breaks the 4th wall.&nbsp; In role-playing or improv acting, you, the player, are the one making the decisions for him.&nbsp; You are the one who is choosing to ask the GM to change the modeled reality.&nbsp; The character cannot do this for himself.&nbsp; Here's an example from Magic: the Gathering.&nbsp; If I improvisationally act as &quot;the master wizard, Karl&quot; who is the Controller of the realms (or whatever that role is) that that game is modeling, I can turn to the judge watching the competition, all the while staying in character as Karl, and say &quot;My realm of trusty warriors doth need the rules changed to win fairly.&quot;&nbsp; Now that must be the geekiest thing I've written in years, but hopefully it illustrates how acting in character doesn't change the reality of the Player being the one asking for a rule change - no matter what game rules are used or fictional reality is being modeled.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="howandwhy99, post: 4508568, member: 3192"] I think I see where you're going, but please let me know if I'm missing the point. I think you're saying one can role-play to the GM instead of the modeled reality. Your example is: breaking the 4th wall in order to appeal to the GM while still acting. My objection is: it doesn't matter if the character breaks the 4th wall. In role-playing or improv acting, you, the player, are the one making the decisions for him. You are the one who is choosing to ask the GM to change the modeled reality. The character cannot do this for himself. Here's an example from Magic: the Gathering. If I improvisationally act as "the master wizard, Karl" who is the Controller of the realms (or whatever that role is) that that game is modeling, I can turn to the judge watching the competition, all the while staying in character as Karl, and say "My realm of trusty warriors doth need the rules changed to win fairly." Now that must be the geekiest thing I've written in years, but hopefully it illustrates how acting in character doesn't change the reality of the Player being the one asking for a rule change - no matter what game rules are used or fictional reality is being modeled. [/QUOTE]

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