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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 3895240" data-attributes="member: 326">Howdy JuzamDjinn! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Apologies for taking so long to reply.There is always going to be an underlying confusion over this Challenge Rating business as far as I can see, simply because the WotC stuff is so ingrained in us that even if I change something you subconsciously go back to thinking that way.Roll on 4th Edition with its infinitely superior CR system...since its basically what I was trying to do, only vastly simplified (because they don't need to revise their own stuff).Basically (if my educated guess is correct) 4th Edition has a parallel between PCs and Elite Monsters. An elite monster is worth 2 standard monsters of the same level.Therefore when they say that one standard monster of the same level (as the PCs) per PC is a good challenge, it means the party is fighting a group roughly half as powerful as themselves. So if 5 elite monsters would be a 50/50 challenge I think we can assume 5 standard monsters will be a 75/25 challenge. Which, unless I am mistaken is about twice as difficult as a same CR encounter (moderate) in 3rd Edition. That means WotC are aiming for a tough encounter as the standard difficulty.   Probably depends on the class.What I noticed from the Revised Core Classes I posted on my website a few months back, was the massive discrepancy between certain classes. In fact it was even greater than I had outlined in v5 (because of a mistake I made in calculating attacks/damage).In some cases that discrepancy is about 40% or more.This is something version 6 would be challenging (no pun intended).Continued research and feedback have shown a number of "That can't be right" moments, which have prompted further study by me (and others).I still believe you can have a viable CR system. But the sheer number of modifiers and variables involved complicate things.I mean you have to ask yourself:1. Is the monster CR correct?2. Are these classes balanced?3. Are there any situational modifiers in play?4. Are these PCs min/maxed?Any or all of those can change the results drammatically.</blockquote>

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